Discussion: Terrorism, Israel, Hamas, etc

[vlad321]

Comrade Tovya said:
I love how you like to ignore the point that the western powers did nothing. While the British were still in control of the mandate, they actually actively opposed and prevented Jewish immigration.

All that the west really did was abandon the mandate, and let the Jews and Arabs fight it out.

Originally, the entire world thought that the Jews were screwed. They offered no help, despite the fact they thought that they stood no chance against the Arab armies.

Everyone was shocked when the smoke cleared and the Jews were whipping the Arabs like a red-headed step child.

Then, the UN stepped in a demanded that Israel halt her war against the Arabs. When the Jews looked like they were doomed, they were silent.

So, seriously, if you want to get historical again, you are just showing that you really don't know your middle east history very well. Because the scenario in your head of Jews & the West VS the Arab world is a fantasy. It didn't happen that way. The Jews shocked both the Arabs and the West, and they only stepped in to stop the conflict when they realized that the Jews were winning.

I actually have a history book from 1951 that goes deeply into this subject, and how the Dulles brothers actually pushed for the creation of the state of Israel because they believed that the Arabs would deal a final blow to them and finally destroy any hope for a future Jewish state (if you know history at all, you'll know that the brothers were ardent anti-Semites who despised Jews).

The Dulles brothers received a lot of kick downs from the oil producing Arab states, and they didn't want the Zionists coming in and messing up their relationship with the Arabs. Oops, looks like the Western world's plan of a real final solution to the "Jewish problem" didn't work out as planned.

 

So how is not forcing the jewish population into Palestine NOT western involvement? How is it not involvement when they were required to allow a jewish governing body within their own country, again by the west?