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The tie ratio of the PS2 in Spain is incredible high, about 1 console for 7 people, so it's reasonable that the PS brand is so powerful than other consoles are in a second place, sadly. Anyway, the feeling is changing, and since the price cut the 360 console is much better considerated. I'm a proud owner of a Wii360, and it's a fact that the 360 is growing, just comparing my mates' consoles. Anyway, it's quite impossible that 360 beats PS3 in this generation (in Spain), but at least people knows that there is more beyond the "play" and the "pro evolution soccer", and the next generation will be equals