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yeah, but at a price, would only be unbearable if they improve games too fast though. so is my bioshock example right? enjoy http://youtube.com/watch?v=kBVmfIUR1DA Yes, at a price, but such is the elitist nature of hardcore PC gaming. Some do have the budget though, otherwise companies like Alienware and Voodoo would have been long out of business, but instead have been bought by Dell and HP, respectively. They can't be doing that bad if those two corporations are willing to buy up boutique vendors. Your Bioshock example? I honestly didn't understand it! Thanks for the link.