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akuma587 said:
Kasz216 said:
mrstickball said:

Never heard of Medicaid, or Medicare have you? It exists to help the US poor with health care.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income_in_the_United_States

Household income for a typical family is $50,000/yr. Now, exactly how is $50,000/yr not enough to live off of? My family is doing just fine with $30,000.

So again, can you provide any sort of evidence that poor people cannot get access to basic health care? I worked for a medical company for an entire year - Taking the elderly and disadvantaged to doctors offices/hospitals for said basic health care...It was all free. And I serviced people from every age, race, and economic background. Most used medicare/aid since they were under the poverty line...And got said services for free.

So I'd really love to see how the poor in the US are disadvantaged with healtcare. If anything, the average family has the disadvantage with healthcare - which is why we've seen Obama and others up in arms so much - because the poor DO get healtcare. But there's a cutoffline that doesn't allow middle class families access to said healthcare.

Yeah.. it is the poorer middle class who get screwed in the healthcare system.

 

This is true, but a lot of doctors have stopped taking Medicaid/Medicare as well because they feel it doesn't give them enough money.  The government does the same thing insurance companies do and haggles with the doctors.

The whole payment system in our current medical system is so poorly done it really just hurts your head sometimes when you sit down and think about it.

And Medicaid and Medicare are definitely socialist, for the record.  But if you took them away people would shit a brick.  People bitch about socialist policies until you try to take away a "socialist" policy they already have.

 

Isn't that illegal?  I thought it was illegal for doctors to refuse treatment.