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NJ5 said:
Pristine20 said:

"snobcore" : you know, I was stalking this thread waiting for someone to describe me with that word. Seems like a significant part of nintendo fanboy lingo these days.

To answer your point, I never said that casual games shouldn't be made but when you look at financials like EA's and their CEO's most recent rant, you know its wii-blown full steam and don't expect games like Battlefield to be coming to wii from them, its only going to be casual pandering all the way. Like you explained, these generate a healthy profit, hence, thats the quickest way to please investors because EA has nothing else to fall back on unlike Sony and M$.

Why would the core market have died off with the ps or ps2? Sure, there were casual titles, but there were also so many titles that I don't remember anytime in the reign of the ps/ps2 that core gamers were eagerly waiting to hear the announcement of another core title like what the wii is having right now? You see the difference. I for one am a HUGE JRPG fan and back then, I couldn't even keep up with the sheer amount of them that were released in that period. To this day, I'm still catching up!

I'm sorry but saying that ps/ps2 = wii is EPIC FAILURE. They just aren't the same. I don't remember anyone even been worried about casual games during that period because they just weren't as significant as they are now. The fact that all gamers talk about now on sites like this is the influx of casualware shows that there's trouble looming. Nintendo's E3 was enough to show what the heavyweights are all about now.

 


You pull an EA/Battlefield, I'll pull an Activision/COD5. That kind of cherry-picking won't get us anywhere.

Even EA is making decent games for the Wii, and judging from their recent declarations they'll invest more on the Wii from now on. If they're stupid enough to think they can make casual games and nothing else, more power to them. The concept of market saturation will bite them in the ass sooner or later, the same way it would have bitten big developers if they did the same during PS/PS2.

With Wii's market expansion, more studios will be created to account for the expansion in the market.

Even if selling chocolates is more profitable than selling rice, I can still find rice everytime I go to the supermarket. Selling rice is still profitable, the same way it was before chocolate was discovered. The supermarket has enough shelves to carry both chocolates and rice.

 

the ps/ps2 gens proved that point but many wii fans keep blaming HD consoles for 3rd party woes. I keep seeing posts stating "if only they focused more on the market leader..." or  "the big-budged obsesses "snobcore"..."but the thing is, if the wii is going to get support, its most likely casual ware. Why? This is the way nintendo advertises the console. Their adverts show the whole family playing wii sports never their 13 year old son playing Zelda.

Also, # of PS360  hardcore players >>>>>> # of wii hardcore players. Add to that the fact that a majority of the wii's hardcore really only wan't sequels to nintendo 's top franchises then you have a mess as a third party dev. I think its pretty clear why 3rd party devs would choose to pander to the casuals when pushing wii titles so those hardcore titles you think are coming would be very few and far between.

 TOS2 wii proves my point in Japan. Despite being a JRPG thats more popular than SRPGs, its numbers aren't even much better than disgaea 3 on ps3 despite the HUGE difference in install base. This proves the point that the hardcore wii fans mostly just want nintendo sequels.



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