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Alienware, promoting their Switch clone, tweets, "Switch is cool but... the limited number of games on it isn't"

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JWeinCom said:
If others are copying you it means you're doing something right. Wonder how much trusted reviews think this thing that can run PC games while also running windows will cost.

well to be fair, this was a portable pc product like this going around before the Switch was even revealed. 



This reply...

"You sold me a $300 computer labeled as a gaming PC with an i3 processor in 2016

I didn't know enough about specs back then to realize a bad deal when I saw it but the computer stuttered playing minecraft on low settings
And you're calling the Switch's price point bad?"

This is why companies avoid such tweets when promoting their own platforms.



well this is true, compared to a pc every library is childs play. but this thing is huge and will be more expensive than a switch. I think it runs on a intel gpu, so it will be too underpowered after some short time.



A GPD Win 2 with 8 GB RAM and 1280x720p display still costs €740 + shipping + import taxes:

https://www.dragonbox.de/de/handhelds/handhelds-mit-windows/gpd-win-2-windows-10-intel-core-m3-8100y-256gb

A Smach Z with 8 GB RAM will cost €899 + shipping + import taxes... if it ever launches:

https://www.smachz.com/shop/

And please don't fall in the trap buying the cheaper 4 GB Smach Z for €699, if you want to play f.e. The Witcher 3, Doom or Wolfenstein 2 in better settings than on a cheap Switch or Switch Lite. 4 GB doesn't cut it for PC games anymore!

By the way, the Smach Z prototype "The Phawx" tested last year on YouTube had 32 GB RAM, so we don't even know, if even 8 GB RAM will be enough: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QclbkG1WnQ&list=PLdC3pP79J-A-XUcDBq_Xv9G26WIQeRooK

The UFO concept with its 8'' FullHD display and an Intel 10th generation Core processor looks more advanced (and more expensive) than the GPD Win 2 and the Smach Z, also Alienware branded hardware ain't cheap... so I expect at least a price of $/€999:

https://www.anandtech.com/show/15348/ces-2020-alienware-showcases-concept-ufo-8-handheld-gaming

Also probably a Switch Pro will be released before the UFO, reducing the hardware performance gap.

And for €700 - €800 price difference to the Switch / Switch lite I can buy a lot of Switch games. The non-exclusives on Switch also aren't that expensive and fall faster in price than Nintendo's first-party-games: https://www.base.com/buy/product/wolfenstein-youngblood-deluxe-edition-code-in-box-nintendo-switch/dgc-wolfyglns.htm?1=1&awc=2694_1579356311_ad357e8087f2276c7a7765ab782873f3

And if you wait for good offers several times per year, you also get Switch games for a decent price (pay 2 get 3; 3 Switch games for € xx, 5 Switch games for € xx...)

Last April I bought Diablo 3, Xenoblade 2, Let's Go, Ebola!, Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker and Lego City Undercover for a total of €100... so only €20 per game.

Last edited by Conina - on 18 January 2020

Pretty sure Nintendo patented their Joycons, and dock. This is too much of a rip off to not get sued.

Also, this thing will cost $800 or more. Nobody is going to spend that much on a portable PC. The Smach Z can run Witcher 3 at 40 FPS 720p, and costs $664 dollars.
Concept UFO is likely even beefier than that, so it'll cost even more. That's why I'm saying Concept will cost $800 or more. Than you have to add storage to it since it has no physical media. PC games take up a ton of HDD space. Switch's use of carts and compression is a lifesaver when it comes to a storage solution. Anyway add another $100 to the price tag unless you want to constantly download and delete games from your full HDD.





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Conina said:

A GPD Win 2 with 8 GB RAM and 1280x720p display still costs €740 + shipping + import taxes:

https://www.dragonbox.de/de/handhelds/handhelds-mit-windows/gpd-win-2-windows-10-intel-core-m3-8100y-256gb

A Smach Z with 8 GB RAM will cost €899 + shipping + import taxes... if it ever launches:

https://www.smachz.com/shop/

And please don't fall in the trap buying the cheaper 4 GB Smach Z for €699, if you want to play f.e. The Witcher 3, Doom or Wolfenstein 2 in better settings than on a cheap Switch or Switch Lite. 4 GB doesn't cut it for PC games anymore!

By the way, the Smach Z prototype "The Phawx" tested last year on YouTube had 32 GB RAM, so we don't even know, if even 8 GB RAM will be enough: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QclbkG1WnQ&list=PLdC3pP79J-A-XUcDBq_Xv9G26WIQeRooK

The UFO concept looks more advanced than the GPD Win 2 and the Smach Z, also Alienware branded hardware ain't cheap... so I expect at least a price of $/€999.

And for €700 - €800 price difference to the Switch / Switch lite I can buy a lot of Switch games. The non-exclusives on Switch also aren't that expensive and fall faster in price than Nintendo's first-party-games. And if you wait for good offers several times per year, you also get Switch games for a decent price (pay 2 get 3; 3 Switch games for € xx, 5 Switch games for € xx...)

Last April I bought Diablo 3, Xenoblade 2, Let's Go, Ebola!, Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker and Lego City Undercover for a total of €100... so only €20 per game.

Hahahahaha! You beat me to it.



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Cerebralbore101 said:
Pretty sure Nintendo patented their Joycons, and dock. This is too much of a rip off to not get sued.

Also, this thing will cost $800 or more. Nobody is going to spend that much on a portable PC. The Smach Z can run Witcher 3 at 40 FPS 720p, and costs $664 dollars.
Concept UFO is likely even beefier than that, so it'll cost even more. That's why I'm saying Concept will cost $800 or more. Than you have to add storage to it since it has no physical media. PC games take up a ton of HDD space. Switch's use of carts and compression is a lifesaver when it comes to a storage solution. Anyway add another $100 to the price tag unless you want to constantly download and delete games from your full HDD.



Patents don't stop you from doing the same thing if your execution, design or both varies.



Radek said:
thismeintiel said:

Not sure why they would bring up price when this will most likely be ~$300, maybe more. Of course, there is also the $200 Lite available.

300? Try 600, it's Alienware after all.

I think you forgot one zero in there somewhere.



This is called a marketing stunt.
They don't care if the reaction to it is negative, it got tons of people in the Nintendo community on Twitter reacting which subsequently can reach some people that might legit be interested in the product.

Should've just ignored the fool and let him be.



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