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Tracking The Rise (Or Fall?) of Skywalker

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thismeintiel said:
NightlyPoe said:

Oh, there can still be good stuff to enjoy on my own.  But it feels like talking about Star Wars requires donning a hazmat suit, lined with kevlar.  I mean, do we actually talk about the movies or the implications and real-world shouting matches?

Even for the Prequels, I recall being able to discuss the actual movies to a far greater degree.

The only reason you would need a hazmat suit is if you can't stand others' opinions and/or the fact that the numbers don't support the narrative that the vast majority thought TLJ was a fine film and the franchise was not hurt by it.

Case in point.



NightlyPoe said:
thismeintiel said:

The only reason you would need a hazmat suit is if you can't stand others' opinions and/or the fact that the numbers don't support the narrative that the vast majority thought TLJ was a fine film and the franchise was not hurt by it.

Case in point.

Well, the truth does hurt sometimes.  But, you can't change it.



zorg1000 said:
S.Peelman said:

It would be better if they weren’t canon. It’ll never happen though. These exist now. They’re called “VII, VIII and XI”, they can’t be unmade.

Damn, they skipped IX & X?

Didn’t you notice? In IX and X they’re going to explain how Palpatine was still alive.



Both TLJ and ROS are among the largest second and third week drops of all time among movies. These drops are matched only by signficantly larger Marvel openings, which are traditionally first weekend heavy movies anyway. While it's fair to say online trolls exaggerated a critical mindset, as it has been discussed before, TLJ was genuinely divise from the start and neither it, nor the two Star Wars movies that followed, came anywhere close to matching box office expectations.

Captain Marvel and Black Panther are far better examples of movies that received rage from trolls without real world correspondence on their performance and reception.



 

 

 

 

 

NightlyPoe said:
thismeintiel said:

The only reason you would need a hazmat suit is if you can't stand others' opinions and/or the fact that the numbers don't support the narrative that the vast majority thought TLJ was a fine film and the franchise was not hurt by it.

Case in point.

Case in point fir thismeintiel, right? Because he literally doesn't say anything to help your point



S.Peelman said:
zorg1000 said:

Damn, they skipped IX & X?

Didn’t you notice? In IX and X they’re going to explain how Palpatine was still alive.

In two movies? Damn, that's got to be one hell of an explanation.



So it didn't do as well as TLJ, but what about in a vacuum? Did it still do well for movies in general? I don't follow movies so don't know the standard. It'd also be nice if we could see merchandising sales. I said earlier that Disney ultimately wins but maybe I'm mistaken, god I sure hope I am otherwise they have no reason to do better in the future.



haxxiy said:
Both TLJ and ROS are among the largest second and third week drops of all time among movies.

No they're not.  A quick look at Boxofficemojo shows The Last Jedi all the way down at 178 on the 2nd weekend drop list even with the Christmas Eve headwinds.  And its 3rd weekend was only 26.6%, which is great.

Rise of Skywalker's 2nd weekend drop is all the way down the list at 621.  And its 3rd weekend drop was only 52.3%.  I don't see a 3rd weekend records chart, but to get to the top of charts like that, you'd need to be seeing drops in the 80s, not 50s.

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/chart/biggest_second_weekend_gross_drop/?ref_=bo_csw_ac



DarthJarvis said:
NightlyPoe said:

Case in point.

Case in point fir thismeintiel, right? Because he literally doesn't say anything to help your point

Considering I was making a point about how these movies have turned into a not fun battlefield and even that was something thismeintiel felt the need to try and turn into a battle, I actually do think it makes the point very well.

Last edited by NightlyPoe - on 12 January 2020

Massive drop from The Force Awakens +$900 million gross in 2015. Way to go Disney! 5 Star Wars movies in 5 calendar years. No danger of overexposure there. I hope George Lucas in laughing as he counts his money.



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