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Forums - Sales Discussion - Global Hardware 07 September 2019

kazuyamishima said:
PS4: 6th year, no new Big releases, no price cut, MRSP $299/399. And over 200K Damm.

Switch is doing better, the new model gave a big boost.

Still I guess ps4 is undertracked and switch overtracked, but I could be wrong.

I rather think it's the other way around. Sony hasn't said anything yet about 100M sold trough, right? I think that's just too big a number not to make an announcement for.

Switch on the other hand had the new model outside of Japan 2 weeks earlier, but that didn't get represented in the weekly charts, so I think it's actually a bit undertracked.

Guess we're gonna see in a month with the next quarterly reports how close the tracking really is.



SammyGiireal said:
The most surprising stat here is how strong the PS4 keeps selling after all this time.

It still has games....

(a few upcomeing (2019-2020)) PS4 games (not on xbox):

Concrete Genie
The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel III
Disgaea 4 Complete+
Death Stranding
Inazuma Eleven Ares
Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles Remastered
Final Fantasy VII Remake
Granblue Fantasy Versus
Dreams
13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim (jp only so far)
Cube Life: Island Survival HD
Ni no Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch
Travis Strikes Again: No More Heroes
MediEvil - Remake
Yakuza 4
Yakuza 5
The Yakuza Remastered Collection
Yakuza: Like a Dragon (8th mainline)
Tokyo Ghoul: re Call to Exist
Shenmue III
Starbound
Star Ocean: First Departure R
Sakuna: Of Rice and Ruin
Senran Kagura 7EVEN
Soul Saga: Episode 1
Nioh 2
Trials of Mana Remake
Persona 5: The Royal
Persona 5 Scramble: The Phantom Strikers
Project Sakura Wars
Praey for the Gods
Romance of the Three Kingdoms XIV
Manifold Garden
Gungrave G.O.R.E.
Ghost of Tsushima
The Last of Us Part II
Yo-kai Watch 4

Games sell hardware, not the other way around.
You want a platform to do well, you need to keep the users engaged with quality titles, even better if your place is the only place to play them.

Last edited by JRPGfan - on 20 September 2019

Bofferbrauer2 said:
kazuyamishima said:
PS4: 6th year, no new Big releases, no price cut, MRSP $299/399. And over 200K Damm.

Switch is doing better, the new model gave a big boost.

Still I guess ps4 is undertracked and switch overtracked, but I could be wrong.

I rather think it's the other way around. Sony hasn't said anything yet about 100M sold trough, right? I think that's just too big a number not to make an announcement for.

Switch on the other hand had the new model outside of Japan 2 weeks earlier, but that didn't get represented in the weekly charts, so I think it's actually a bit undertracked.

Guess we're gonna see in a month with the next quarterly reports how close the tracking really is.

ZhugeEX kinda confirmed its over 100m though.
He said that PS4 was over 30m in the USA, and its almost 30% of total PS4 sales.

That basically saying theres over 70m PS4 out there, somewhere else not in the USA.

Sony did at one point say they had now shipped more than 100m units.



JRPGfan said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

I rather think it's the other way around. Sony hasn't said anything yet about 100M sold trough, right? I think that's just too big a number not to make an announcement for.

Switch on the other hand had the new model outside of Japan 2 weeks earlier, but that didn't get represented in the weekly charts, so I think it's actually a bit undertracked.

Guess we're gonna see in a month with the next quarterly reports how close the tracking really is.

ZhugeEX kinda confirmed its over 100m though.
He said that PS4 was over 30m in the USA, and its almost 30% of total PS4 sales.

That basically saying theres over 70m PS4 out there, somewhere else not in the USA.

Sony did at one point say they had now shipped more than 100m units.

That doesnt confirm 100m sell through, he said over 30m in US and around 30% of total sales. It could be 30.1m in US and be 30.5% of sales which would be like ~98.7m globally.

Since he didn't specifically mention 100m sell through and Sony hasnt commented on it yet than it's safe to say it's not quite there yet.



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kazuyamishima said:
PS4: 6th year, no new Big releases, no price cut, MRSP $299/399. And over 200K Damm.

Switch is doing better, the new model gave a big boost.

Still I guess ps4 is undertracked and switch overtracked, but I could be wrong.

Monster hunter did provide a solid 20k boost to japan, but that’s about it 



kazuyamishima said:
PS4: 6th year, no new Big releases, no price cut, MRSP $299/399. And over 200K Damm.

really impressive. MediEvil Remake and Congrete Genie are coming in october :D And after that "Death Stranding" and Shenmue 3, cant wait of the new numbers then!!

JRPGfan said:
SammyGiireal said:
The most surprising stat here is how strong the PS4 keeps selling after all this time.

It still has games....

(a few upcomeing (2019-2020)) PS4 games (not on xbox):

Concrete Genie
The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel III
Disgaea 4 Complete+
Death Stranding
Inazuma Eleven Ares
Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles Remastered
Final Fantasy VII Remake
Granblue Fantasy Versus
Dreams
13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim (jp only so far)
Cube Life: Island Survival HD
Ni no Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch
Travis Strikes Again: No More Heroes
MediEvil - Remake
Yakuza 4
Yakuza 5
The Yakuza Remastered Collection
Yakuza: Like a Dragon (8th mainline)
Tokyo Ghoul: re Call to Exist
Shenmue III
Starbound
Star Ocean: First Departure R
Sakuna: Of Rice and Ruin
Senran Kagura 7EVEN
Soul Saga: Episode 1
Nioh 2
Trials of Mana Remake
Persona 5: The Royal
Persona 5 Scramble: The Phantom Strikers
Project Sakura Wars
Praey for the Gods
Romance of the Three Kingdoms XIV
Manifold Garden
Gungrave G.O.R.E.
Ghost of Tsushima
The Last of Us Part II
Yo-kai Watch 4

Games sell hardware, not the other way around.
You want a platform to do well, you need to keep the users engaged with quality titles, even better if your place is the only place to play them.

thanks for the list! good to know.

JRPGfan said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

I rather think it's the other way around. Sony hasn't said anything yet about 100M sold trough, right? I think that's just too big a number not to make an announcement for.

Switch on the other hand had the new model outside of Japan 2 weeks earlier, but that didn't get represented in the weekly charts, so I think it's actually a bit undertracked.

Guess we're gonna see in a month with the next quarterly reports how close the tracking really is.

ZhugeEX kinda confirmed its over 100m though.
He said that PS4 was over 30m in the USA, and its almost 30% of total PS4 sales.

he is official analyst and on VGChartz, right ?



zorg1000 said:
JRPGfan said:

ZhugeEX kinda confirmed its over 100m though.
He said that PS4 was over 30m in the USA, and its almost 30% of total PS4 sales.

That basically saying theres over 70m PS4 out there, somewhere else not in the USA.

Sony did at one point say they had now shipped more than 100m units.

That doesnt confirm 100m sell through, he said over 30m in US and around 30% of total sales. It could be 30.1m in US and be 30.5% of sales which would be like ~98.7m globally.

Since he didn't specifically mention 100m sell through and Sony hasnt commented on it yet than it's safe to say it's not quite there yet.

Sony not announcing 100m as soon as it happens doesn't confirm it hasn't reach it either. The same argument has been made in the past, sure not for as big a milestone, but people claiming sales must be lower than a certain figure because lack of an announcement only to proved wrong later.

Zhuugex likely hasn't mentioned it because he's not completely sure, after all he says "over 30m", "approximately 30%" and as you say, without EXACT figures you can't say definitively one way or another if it has passed 100m, so he doesn't.

Personally as of today I'm sure the PS4 has sold-through over 100m, but we'll find out soon enough.



kazuyamishima said:
PS4: 6th year, no new Big releases, no price cut, MRSP $299/399. And over 200K Damm.

Switch is doing better, the new model gave a big boost.

Still I guess ps4 is undertracked and switch overtracked, but I could be wrong.

PS4 is probably close to right on the money, they allign pretty well with Sony confirming 100M shipped and Zhuge's comments.

However not sure why you would think Switch is overtracked?



PlayStation®4 hardware unit sales : 100 million (As of June 30, 2019)

https://www.sie.com/en/corporate/data.html



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