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Chazore said:

I stopped watching Dunkey, the moment he mocked criticism towards his videos and lack of in-depth talks. All he does now is toss in a few memes and think's he's funny shit 99% of the time,.

I don't know when he was supposed to be good, but about a year ago, I watched some of his vids. Found 2 of them kinda funny, with some good game footage, but grew tired of him quickly. His popularity confounds me.



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RJTM1991 said:
Xbox brought the backlash on themselves. The way they handled the XB1's launch caused millions to jump ship to the PS4.

However, Halo 5 was a great game. Sure, the campaign was lacking, but the multiplayer was the series' best. Gears 4 was good, much better than Judgment, and Gears 5 is quite possibly the best entry in the series there too. Sure, they may not be as groundbreaking as they were years ago, but they're still incredible games.

I adore Nintendo, but... For almost thirty years, they stuck to the same blueprint with Zelda and Mario. Pokemon hasn't changed since the 90s as well. Why do those titles get a pass, but others get overly nit-picked?

How is this statement even remotely true?  Nintendo consistently updates and revamps their franchises, often to the chagrin of their most ardent fans.  Certainly they continue to use the same characters, but to suggest they use the same blueprint shows either a lack of knowledge about the history of these titles, or a very expansive view of what the Mario or Zelda blueprints are.  For comparison, check out the COD formula or Final Fantasy.  I'm probably going to regret even getting involved in this conversation, but I for one am tired of this consistent argument made by people that just don't like the Mushroom Kingdom and Hyrule.  I suppose it might be like how I might think a specific genre of music all sounds the same, while other people would be able to cut that genre into 15 different sub-genres and claim that as diversity.

But to suggest that Nintendo ever gets a pass and that people aren't nit-picky about them would be to ignore almost every forum post in the last 15 years.



super_etecoon said:
RJTM1991 said:
Xbox brought the backlash on themselves. The way they handled the XB1's launch caused millions to jump ship to the PS4.

However, Halo 5 was a great game. Sure, the campaign was lacking, but the multiplayer was the series' best. Gears 4 was good, much better than Judgment, and Gears 5 is quite possibly the best entry in the series there too. Sure, they may not be as groundbreaking as they were years ago, but they're still incredible games.

I adore Nintendo, but... For almost thirty years, they stuck to the same blueprint with Zelda and Mario. Pokemon hasn't changed since the 90s as well. Why do those titles get a pass, but others get overly nit-picked?

How is this statement even remotely true?  Nintendo consistently updates and revamps their franchises, often to the chagrin of their most ardent fans.  Certainly they continue to use the same characters, but to suggest they use the same blueprint shows either a lack of knowledge about the history of these titles, or a very expansive view of what the Mario or Zelda blueprints are.  For comparison, check out the COD formula or Final Fantasy.  I'm probably going to regret even getting involved in this conversation, but I for one am tired of this consistent argument made by people that just don't like the Mushroom Kingdom and Hyrule.  I suppose it might be like how I might think a specific genre of music all sounds the same, while other people would be able to cut that genre into 15 different sub-genres and claim that as diversity.

But to suggest that Nintendo ever gets a pass and that people aren't nit-picky about them would be to ignore almost every forum post in the last 15 years.

Indeed. Nintendo has never gotten a pass. Infact Super Mario 3D World while excellent was panned on forums ( it didn't really help the Wii U sell either but the Wii U had many issues) Nintendo actually has it rougher than most. People usually expect excellence from their Zelda and Mario main releases, if a Zelda is not a 10/10 game people start complaining about it. Nintendo never gets a pass if BotW and Mario Odyssey are top ten all time games it is because Nintendo always strives for excellence and innovation with in their own IPs. BotW is a prime example of this, with in its open world the game does things that no other open world game does.



RJTM1991 said:
Xbox brought the backlash on themselves. The way they handled the XB1's launch caused millions to jump ship to the PS4.

However, Halo 5 was a great game. Sure, the campaign was lacking, but the multiplayer was the series' best. Gears 4 was good, much better than Judgment, and Gears 5 is quite possibly the best entry in the series there too. Sure, they may not be as groundbreaking as they were years ago, but they're still incredible games.

I adore Nintendo, but... For almost thirty years, they stuck to the same blueprint with Zelda and Mario. Pokemon hasn't changed since the 90s as well. Why do those titles get a pass, but others get overly nit-picked?

I could never agree with halo 5 being the peak of multiplayer considering it's the game which tried to kill couch co op and suggest to the world that it wasn't included because people didn't want it, utter rubbish that they've since 180d on.

The peak of halo multiplayer for me was doing team death match in haloce with 2 system linked Xboxs and 2 TVs back to back one team at each side of my room as a teen. Nothing will beat that ever as a game and experience, most certainly not getting called the n word from a 12 year old on a 2 euro mic in a wind tunnel.



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Chris Hu said:
The video is BS not that I would expect anything better from a Youtuber with Videogamedunkey as user name I think he should change it to Vidoegamedummy that would be more fitting.

You should put that as a comment on his video, it will really hurt his feelings as a completely serious games critic on YouTube.



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COKTOE said:

I don't know when he was supposed to be good, but about a year ago, I watched some of his vids. Found 2 of them kinda funny, with some good game footage, but grew tired of him quickly. His popularity confounds me.

Same here. I found him funny some years ago, but it turns out he's the exact same track record as he was all those years back.

Also, I left a comment about his recent shit-take on a fan giving him criticism (which he didn't take well, and instead took the piss out of them), to which I was met by his "adoring" fans white knighting for him. This shows that the guy doesn't really have all that much content for the future. 



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Ganoncrotch said:
Dunkey is a God, video is pretty much nail on the head, I was expecting more a comedy video from him but nope, does it direct and fairly cutting breakdown of why the system and their whole division is pointless right now.

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The Fall of Xbox

I love Dunkey but didn't know he was that huge, some of his Mario Maker videos are gold btw if you guys haven't seen them, he's really good at games as well as being a funny youtuber.

I think a lot of Xbox guys have jumped ship or are jumping ship. One channel I watch is MBG. Not a big channel, but he has about 33K subs. I came across him this year. I decided to look at his old videos, and it surprised me because they were all positive Xbox vids. Apparently, he jumped ship earlier this year. I think a lot are following.

And there's a reason their PR for Gears 5 rings hollow. They gave the game away for a month for $1. Of course, people are going to jump at that. I'm surprised it wasn't more than 3M honestly, as it's on PC, too. I mean GOW and Spider-Man sold over 3M in it first days at $60 a pop. That's $180M+ in revenue compared to probably just $17M from retail/digital* and the rest from Game Pass promotions. It's obvious that MS is taking a hit on this game in order to push Game Pass. I just don't think it's going to work when the promotion is up and their aren't more huge titles on there.

* Gears 3 sold 3M in its first week. In the UK, it did 20x the amount Gears 5 sold. If we say that averages out to 15x, with other regions probably doing better, that's just 200K units sold. If we are being generous and make the digital ratio a high 42%, that makes 284K units sold, $17M in revenue at full price.



Hmm, decent watch. I like a Dunkey video every now and then. Although his video and Jim Sterling's together at the same time? Ouch,.



Hmm, pie.

As someone else pointed out, his video feels dated. Moving into the next gen, sure the Xbox franchise has it's work cut out, but we had two gens in a row where the front runner imploded, handing their competition a free victory. We've heard little about the next Xbox, and even less about the ps5.



Video was just a list wars of a brief snapshot in time. Xbox has fallen from their peak, but every console maker has gone through dark periods of time. Sony and Nintendo have both experienced prolonged periods of time with they faltered as well. This has been a terrible generation for Xbox, that is definitely true, but I wouldn’t throw the towel in on them yet. They appear to building towards something great. They seem poised to come out swinging next gen and are probably the best positioned console maker to capitalize on the inevitable digital future in games.