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The European numbers for PS4 make absolutely no sense



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Eagle367 said:
The European numbers for PS4 make absolutely no sense

This week last year the PS4 sold 91k in EU. These aren't unusual numbers.

August 11th 2018 EU was 44.92% of global total for the week

This year EU is 46.5% of global total for the week. There is no clear issue here.

If EU numbers have been too high for a long time, that just means RoW numbers have been too low.



PS4 seems to be on pace to finish the year around 15'5-16'0M which is what i predicted at the begining of the year (in fact i said that PS4 and Switch would be neck and neck just before Oct-Nov and it seems is going to be like this), and all of this without a price cut and a lackluster year of AAA games in 2019 compared to 2017 and 2018.

I don't know what to say about this...We were talking in that other thread about how Nintendo games don't go cheaper and still sell and sell, years after release, and with PS4 is the same but with home consoles. Base PS4 still costs officially 300$ almost 6 years after its release and is still going to have a better year in 2019 that any year that PS3 or X360 had last gen. It's super impressive. No home console has sold that much, that late at such a price. PS2, PS1 and Wii by this time, were way more cheaper than PS4.

PS4 should end then this year around 107M sold to consumers and if PS5 launches in Nov 2020, PS4 should be close to 120M by then.

Switch, well... is doing fine, probably affected by the inminent Lite launch. I still expect around 18'5-19'0M units sold to consumers this year, a considerable growth compared to last year. This yea, seems very easy to predict right now. What interests me more now, is what Switch is going to do in 2020. We will see....

As for XBOX......it's basically dead. Microsoft wasted resources on XBO X....., They should've done a X360 and start the gen a year earlier, in 2019, even if you did not have games. XBOX brand is going to be fine in US but everywhere else is just that..., dead. Now I'm not even expecting that they will reach 50M at this rate...We probably will never know for sure because Microsoft will never say numbers.



Good summer numbers! Can't wait for what September brings!



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Barkley said:
Mandalore76 said:
Ironic lack of "Eh, statistical tie" comments this time around...

Interesting, no mention of "ties" in the first 2 pages of last weeks thread. At least wait 5+ pages before trying to create petty ammunition.

Wow, that ruffled some feathers quick.  Last week's thread didn't have a difference of less than 2,000.



Very sad to see xbox like this. I'm afraid it's going to be worse as they wants all thier games on other platforms. 

I remember buying an xbox 360 core in 2007 there was shit to s of exclusives that really made you feel proud of your system it was a goto console for sure..... They need to bring that back



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Bofferbrauer2 said:
Dulfite said:
Not sure if this is due to something on PS side or the Lite announcement (more people holding out for that), but either way congrats Sony for at least one more time on top until ps5!

Definitely the Switch Lite/Upgraded Battery Switch models holding Switch sales back. In fact, for a console with 2 new versions incoming, one of them replacing the current model and the other being $100 cheaper, Switch is still selling extremely well.

And congrats for reaching 4000 posts!

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Dulfite said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

Definitely the Switch Lite/Upgraded Battery Switch models holding Switch sales back. In fact, for a console with 2 new versions incoming, one of them replacing the current model and the other being $100 cheaper, Switch is still selling extremely well.

And congrats for reaching 4000 posts!

Very true! And thank you, I didn't even realize it!

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Skeeuk said:

Very sad to see xbox like this. I'm afraid it's going to be worse as they wants all thier games on other platforms. 

I remember buying an xbox 360 core in 2007 there was shit to s of exclusives that really made you feel proud of your system it was a goto console for sure..... They need to bring that back

If Microsoft can sell 1/3 of their hardware from 360 days, but greatly increase software sale profit for their games on other devices I'm sure it will be worth it. Most don't make much of a profit, some even lose money, on hardware. Games are where the profits are. At the end of the day, if this strategy causes their hardware to plummet but their profits to skyrocket, then who cares.



Barkley said:
Eagle367 said:
The European numbers for PS4 make absolutely no sense

This week last year the PS4 sold 91k in EU. These aren't unusual numbers.

August 11th 2018 EU was 44.92% of global total for the week

This year EU is 46.5% of global total for the week. There is no clear issue here.

If EU numbers have been too high for a long time, that just means RoW numbers have been too low.

This is what I've been saying and expecting for quite some time already. The numbers we get from Europe just don't really add up otherwise, unless they buy substantially more consoles per 1000 households than the big western European nations do.