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LudicrousSpeed said:
DonFerrari said:

I love your ability to read minds.

So every dev would love to have their games on all systems as well? I very much doubt most of Nintendo developers have any high wish that their games release on Xbox or PS. If they were so passionate at their games being in all system they would likely been looking to go to a 3rd party.

Every dev wants as many people to play their games as possible. The only reason you see exclusive deals or games not releasing in particular platforms is money. Which is why I said all things being equal. These people are artists, why wouldn’t they want as many people as possible to experience their work? Either way you’re harping on a small part of my post that frankly I don’t feel like bickering about 🖖

Small part of your post?

It is a mountain side assumption you made.

If all artists wanted to have their art exposed to as much people as possible you wouldn't have underground. Not everyone want the same thing as you seem to assume.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

I will be playing Halo on my Switch sooner or later, I bet my house on it.



DonFerrari said:
Well seems like a lot of users were wrong on the thread of Halo on Switch.

No, people were arguing Halo on Switch SHOULD happen. Not that it will happen. Perhaps you didn't read the thread title.

This article is also being taken out of context. They're talking about the NEW games being created by their recently purchased studios. "As these new studios transitioned in, we were aware of some existing commitments to other platforms and will honor them. However, going forward these new studios will focus on making games for our platforms."

Maybe Switch support is over for MS, we don't know. But we can still discuss what we would like MS to put on Switch.



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CrazyGamer2017 said:

Didn't they just announce Ori and the Blind Forest on Switch? Also this contradicts their several statements about Xbox games aiming for a much wider audience.

Yes, it releases on the Switch next month I believe, but it doesn't contradict anything. That statement was about Xcloud releasing on phones, which is a much wider audience then any console could offer. 



Mr Puggsly said:

This article is also being taken out of context. They're talking about the NEW games being created by their recently purchased studios. "As these new studios transitioned in, we were aware of some existing commitments to other platforms and will honor them. However, going forward these new studios will focus on making games for our platforms."

You're right, the quote only addresses the studios they've acquired already committed to making games, e.g Wasteland 3, Outer Worlds, and doesn't address Ori/Minecraft Dungeons at all.

The person being interviewed is only claiming Obsidian/Inxile etc won't be making games for other consoles, not that none of microsoft games will come to other consoles.



JRPGfan said:

To be fair, at that point because the OP didnt put any content in his oringal post, expect a link, all I had read at that point was just the Title of the thread, and it was a reactionary message.

The details that its only future content, after these things come out, and only with the expection of other consoles ect.

You see how messy that messageing from MS is?
If what you say changes on a weekly basis, and you need to read the fineprint, and Thread titles are misleading, and possbily article names too....

Yeah its bad communication.
Good messageing is short, precise, doesnt require reading fine print, and doesnt sway left and right, week by week.

Yeah but when someone posts about an interview and includes a link... shouldn't you read the interview before making a crazy reaction?

There is no messy messaging, just people who make the messaging messy with spins and opinions. Microsoft bought some studios. Some of them have games already coming with prior release arrangements. Microsoft will honor those. Past that, they have no plans to support other consoles. See how easy that is?



JRPGfan said:
konnichiwa said:

If you read the article:

We have no plans to further expand our exclusive first party games to other consoles.

With gamepass on PC they bring their games on pc

And studios that they acquired who were making a game for multiply systems will still release the game on the other systems this is known for a long time :s.

New games from the studious like bleeding egde will be on Xbox/PC.

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Alright you two.... be honest... how long until the next Steam/Switch/PS4 announcement from a Microsoft Studio?

Maybe, probably, not right now, no current plans...

How long does this PR quote last? until its proven wrong?

but why include steam we know about PC gamepass and it includes first party.

We never know ofcourse but bleeding edge is for PC/Xbox only , Ori is second party tho + minecraft is minecraft it sold more than PS2 and is basically a platform on it's own but I believe the other game Mojang made was only on Xbox(pc?).






LudicrousSpeed said:
JRPGfan said:

To be fair, at that point because the OP didnt put any content in his oringal post, expect a link, all I had read at that point was just the Title of the thread, and it was a reactionary message.

The details that its only future content, after these things come out, and only with the expection of other consoles ect.

You see how messy that messageing from MS is?
If what you say changes on a weekly basis, and you need to read the fineprint, and Thread titles are misleading, and possbily article names too....

Yeah its bad communication.
Good messageing is short, precise, doesnt require reading fine print, and doesnt sway left and right, week by week.

Yeah but when someone posts about an interview and includes a link... shouldn't you read the interview before making a crazy reaction?

There is no messy messaging, just people who make the messaging messy with spins and opinions. Microsoft bought some studios. Some of them have games already coming with prior release arrangements. Microsoft will honor those. Past that, they have no plans to support other consoles. See how easy that is?

Your explaination is better than the one Phil or whoever this quote is from, is.
You should do PR for Microsoft, your take is much better.

Still.... all this coulda been avoided I feel like, its unnessary to even say this much. Theres probably ways around running into such issues.
(like saying things everyone expects = pointless to say so)

My question is..... if Ludicrous is able to give a short, sweet, precise answear, that leaves no room for confusion.

Why the hell cant the guys at Xbox do the same?


Why do they give messy answears like this:

"The past year has been an exciting time for us as we have more than doubled the internal creative teams making up Xbox Game Studios. As these new studios transitioned in, we were aware of some existing commitments to other platforms and will honor them. However, going forward these new studios will focus on making games for our platforms. We have no plans to further expand our exclusive first party games to other consoles. We continue to believe deeply in cross play and progression of games with the right flexibility for developers to insure a fair and fun experience."

Why is it that long?
why does it mention cross play?
and allowing the "right flexibility" of devleopers (of what happends) to insure fair and fun experiances?

Why dont they focus their messaging, so they avoid these issues with headlines?
Instead of it seeming like week after week, they say and mean differnt things.

its a PR issue.

Last edited by JRPGfan - on 21 August 2019

Mr Puggsly said:
DonFerrari said:
Well seems like a lot of users were wrong on the thread of Halo on Switch.

No, people were arguing Halo on Switch SHOULD happen. Not that it will happen. Perhaps you didn't read the thread title.

This article is also being taken out of context. They're talking about the NEW games being created by their recently purchased studios. "As these new studios transitioned in, we were aware of some existing commitments to other platforms and will honor them. However, going forward these new studios will focus on making games for our platforms."

Maybe Switch support is over for MS, we don't know. But we can still discuss what we would like MS to put on Switch.

OP yes, he was saying it should. Some other were acting more like it will, and is already happening (like Ori) and would continue to happen.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

JRPGfan said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

Yeah but when someone posts about an interview and includes a link... shouldn't you read the interview before making a crazy reaction?

There is no messy messaging, just people who make the messaging messy with spins and opinions. Microsoft bought some studios. Some of them have games already coming with prior release arrangements. Microsoft will honor those. Past that, they have no plans to support other consoles. See how easy that is?

Your explaination is better than the one Phil or whoever this quote is from, is.
You should do PR for Microsoft, your take is much better.

Still.... all this coulda been avoided I feel like, its unnessary to even say this much. Theres probably ways around running into such issues.
(like saying things everyone expects = pointless to say so)

My question is..... if Ludicrous is able to give a short, sweet, precise answear, that leaves no room for confusion.

Why the hell cant the guys at Xbox do the same?


Why do they give messy answears like this:

"The past year has been an exciting time for us as we have more than doubled the internal creative teams making up Xbox Game Studios. As these new studios transitioned in, we were aware of some existing commitments to other platforms and will honor them. However, going forward these new studios will focus on making games for our platforms. We have no plans to further expand our exclusive first party games to other consoles. We continue to believe deeply in cross play and progression of games with the right flexibility for developers to insure a fair and fun experience."

Why is it that long?
why does it mention cross play?
and allowing the "right flexibility" of devleopers (of what happends) to insure fair and fun experiances?

Why dont they focus their messaging, so they avoid these issues with headlines?
Instead of it seeming like week after week, they say and mean differnt things.

its a PR issue.

Probably because Ludicrous is doing his interpretation and simplification and that isn't the true message MS is giving.

Better yet, let's accuse everyone of spinning since MS doesn't spin things.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."