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COKTOE said:
The_Yoda said:

All he said was "

renner4real

Verified

Hey @sonypictures we want Spider-Man back to @therealstanlee and @Marvel please, thank you #congrats #spidermanrocks #🏹 #please"

All the other quotes in the linked article seem to be from other people not to mention I'm sure his publicist has someone hired to run that twitter account...

I'm not sure what you're seeing that I'm not. The article headline: Avengers star Jeremy Renner slams Sony over fued with Disney, Marvel, may be overstating the matter, but it's not inaccurate in presenting his take as to to who's at fault. He puts the onus for Spider-Man's exit from the MCU squarely on Sony. And whether or not it's him or his publicist is irrelavant. The name of his Twitter account is renner4real. If he can't back up what he says on twitter because his gacked-up publicist wrote it, he should change his name to something more ambiguous. Too bad punctuation isn't allowed in handles. renner4real? would fit the bill.

It's what you're seeing that I'm not ... Sorry that headline is click-bait so I am only looking at the tweet roughly translated as:

"Hey Sony we want Spider-Man back please and thank you: congrats, spiderman is awesome, I'm Fucking Hawkeye Bitches, Please?"  Not really a slam more of a plead and a shout out by my interpretation. 

And you're right at the very least he has either written it himself or authorized someone to speak for him so it can be considered at the very least to have come from his camp.



Stan Lee's daughter just put Marvel and Disney on blast.. And I'm talkin bullhorn blast..

Source: https://www.tmz.com/2019/08/22/stan-lee-daughter-sony-disney-spiderman-marvel/

More Source: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/22/stan-lees-daughter-sides-with-sony-in-spider-man-spat-with-disney.html

Sony's move to limit control over 'Spider-Man' -- and potentially remove the superhero entirely from Disney's Marvel Comic Universe -- is one that was necessary and something Stan would have appreciated ... so says his daughter, Joan Celia (JC) Lee.

"Marvel and Disney seeking total control of my father's creations must be checked and balanced by others who, while still seeking to profit, have genuine respect for Stan Lee and his legacy."

"Whether it's Sony or someone else's, the continued evolution of Stan's characters and his legacy deserves multiple points of view."

“When my father died, no one from Marvel or Disney reached out to me. From day one, they have commoditized my father’s work and never shown him or his legacy any respect or decency.”

JC's parting words ... "In the end, no one could have treated my father worse than Marvel and Disney's executives."

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deskpro2k3 said:

Stan Lee's daughter just put Marvel and Disney on blast.. And I'm talkin bullhorn blast..

Source: https://www.tmz.com/2019/08/22/stan-lee-daughter-sony-disney-spiderman-marvel/

More Source: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/22/stan-lees-daughter-sides-with-sony-in-spider-man-spat-with-disney.html

Sony's move to limit control over 'Spider-Man' -- and potentially remove the superhero entirely from Disney's Marvel Comic Universe -- is one that was necessary and something Stan would have appreciated ... so says his daughter, Joan Celia (JC) Lee.

"Marvel and Disney seeking total control of my father's creations must be checked and balanced by others who, while still seeking to profit, have genuine respect for Stan Lee and his legacy."

"Whether it's Sony or someone else's, the continued evolution of Stan's characters and his legacy deserves multiple points of view."

“When my father died, no one from Marvel or Disney reached out to me. From day one, they have commoditized my father’s work and never shown him or his legacy any respect or decency.”

JC's parting words ... "In the end, no one could have treated my father worse than Marvel and Disney's executives."

Boom Roasted. Also, his daughter looks like Celine Dion.



- "If you have the heart of a true winner, you can always get more pissed off than some other asshole."

COKTOE said:
deskpro2k3 said:

Stan Lee's daughter just put Marvel and Disney on blast.. And I'm talkin bullhorn blast..

Source: https://www.tmz.com/2019/08/22/stan-lee-daughter-sony-disney-spiderman-marvel/

More Source: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/22/stan-lees-daughter-sides-with-sony-in-spider-man-spat-with-disney.html

Boom Roasted. Also, his daughter looks like Celine Dion.

That is Celine Dion = Fake news



The_Yoda said:
COKTOE said:

I'm not sure what you're seeing that I'm not. The article headline: Avengers star Jeremy Renner slams Sony over fued with Disney, Marvel, may be overstating the matter, but it's not inaccurate in presenting his take as to to who's at fault. He puts the onus for Spider-Man's exit from the MCU squarely on Sony. And whether or not it's him or his publicist is irrelavant. The name of his Twitter account is renner4real. If he can't back up what he says on twitter because his gacked-up publicist wrote it, he should change his name to something more ambiguous. Too bad punctuation isn't allowed in handles. renner4real? would fit the bill.

It's what you're seeing that I'm not ... Sorry that headline is click-bait so I am only looking at the tweet roughly translated as:

"Hey Sony we want Spider-Man back please and thank you: congrats, spiderman is awesome, I'm Fucking Hawkeye Bitches, Please?"  Not really a slam more of a plead and a shout out by my interpretation. 

And you're right at the very least he has either written it himself or authorized someone to speak for him so it can be considered at the very least to have come from his camp.

I'm not sure what else to do in getting across that Renner is pointing the finger at Sony as the sole culprit in the events that lead to the parting of ways. No mention of Disney/Marvel's culpability.



- "If you have the heart of a true winner, you can always get more pissed off than some other asshole."

The_Yoda said:
COKTOE said:

Boom Roasted. Also, his daughter looks like Celine Dion.

That is Celine Dion = Fake news

lol. that's his daughter, Joan Celia Lee.



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COKTOE said:
deskpro2k3 said:

Stan Lee's daughter just put Marvel and Disney on blast.. And I'm talkin bullhorn blast..

Source: https://www.tmz.com/2019/08/22/stan-lee-daughter-sony-disney-spiderman-marvel/

More Source: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/22/stan-lees-daughter-sides-with-sony-in-spider-man-spat-with-disney.html

Sony's move to limit control over 'Spider-Man' -- and potentially remove the superhero entirely from Disney's Marvel Comic Universe -- is one that was necessary and something Stan would have appreciated ... so says his daughter, Joan Celia (JC) Lee.

"Marvel and Disney seeking total control of my father's creations must be checked and balanced by others who, while still seeking to profit, have genuine respect for Stan Lee and his legacy."

"Whether it's Sony or someone else's, the continued evolution of Stan's characters and his legacy deserves multiple points of view."

“When my father died, no one from Marvel or Disney reached out to me. From day one, they have commoditized my father’s work and never shown him or his legacy any respect or decency.”

JC's parting words ... "In the end, no one could have treated my father worse than Marvel and Disney's executives."

Boom Roasted. Also, his daughter looks like Celine Dion.

Absolutely roasted. Also my first thoughts as well lol. I hope this news goes around Twitter and Instagram.



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COKTOE said:
The_Yoda said:

It's what you're seeing that I'm not ... Sorry that headline is click-bait so I am only looking at the tweet roughly translated as:

"Hey Sony we want Spider-Man back please and thank you: congrats, spiderman is awesome, I'm Fucking Hawkeye Bitches, Please?"  Not really a slam more of a plead and a shout out by my interpretation. 

And you're right at the very least he has either written it himself or authorized someone to speak for him so it can be considered at the very least to have come from his camp.

I'm not sure what else to do in getting across that Renner is pointing the finger at Sony as the sole culprit in the events that lead to the parting of ways. No mention of Disney/Marvel's culpability.

I think we are just interpreting it differently. 

Sony legally holds the Spider-Man movie card.  If my buddy (Disney) asks to borrow his mom's car (Sony's Spider-Man) and she says no I don't plead with my buddy or point the finger at him (I might not be along for the ride if he manages to change her mind) , instead I try to appeal to his mother. If I were him I wouldn't be pointing a finger at either studio since either one might employee me in the future, again though that is if I were him.

It just feels like you're reading too much into it (i.e. influenced by the article's title), perhaps though I'm just not reading enough into it.



The_Yoda said:
COKTOE said:

I'm not sure what else to do in getting across that Renner is pointing the finger at Sony as the sole culprit in the events that lead to the parting of ways. No mention of Disney/Marvel's culpability.

I think we are just interpreting it differently. 

Sony legally holds the Spider-Man movie card.  If my buddy (Disney) asks to borrow his mom's car (Sony's Spider-Man) and she says no I don't plead with my buddy or point the finger at him (I might not be along for the ride if he manages to change her mind) , instead I try to appeal to his mother. If I were him I wouldn't be pointing a finger at either studio since either one might employee me in the future, again though that is if I were him.

It just feels like you're reading too much into it (i.e. influenced by the article's title), perhaps though I'm just not reading enough into it.

I don't know Yoda...I like you and all, but I think at this point we should make arrangements to wrestle in a parking lot.



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