We can have a great safety net through private charities and we can have a lot more job opportunities and reduce artificial inflation by getting the government out of our business. Most of the big corporations that are corrupt are helped by the federal government. The biggest example is the pharmaceutical companies. It's one of the biggest reason why medical care is so expensive. They pretty much closed out all outside competition thanks to the government. Historically, there hasn't been a better time to live. Yes, we do have issues, but it pales in comparison to the past. We are living better than most past kings/ royal familes for god sakes.

Seemed not worth the discussion to me. I mean it was a pretty obvious conclusion to a Dave Rubin wet dream. "government is bad at everything we should just let corporations take care of it because it'll get better due to competition, drones, blah blah blah". So weird that some people think there are only two speeds: full government take over of all industries, or corporate anarchism where government's only place is military (if that). Seems pretty obvious that neither government nor corporations are all good or bad and both have their place. Education and healthcare are some of those things where markets break down either because we want children to have equal access to education as a country to benefit our overall citizenry, or because when someone needs healthcare you aren't able to (or at least in the mindset to) shop around for who could save your life the cheapest. 

Yeah, I agree. The government is corrupt because most of the politicians have their pockets lined with money from Big Pharma and big corporations. Until we get money out of our politics there will be no change, these groups will continue to buy our politicians and set down laws that will only benefit them and the groups that pay them. That's the biggest issue that's facing the American people and one I'm fighting against.

I disagree with solely relying on private charities to provide a safety net such as healthcare and  affordable housing and also free education. It doesn't work like that.

Obviously we as a society are far better than we were in the past thanks to modern technology, that's just common sense, no one's arguing that. Just because we are better than past peoples doesn't mean we're at our pinnacle and we shouldn't advance to include programs and policies to give everyone a social safety net. That's what happens in civil societies, we take care of the most vulnerable and give them a helping hand.

Not true, only certain aspects are better. For example, Canadians have a longer wait time and way higher taxes. Not to mention the cost for basic commodities in Canada is a lot more expensive than America's products. This is all thanks to government interference. When the U.S. government got out of certain health care aspects such as lasik eye surgery the cost went way down.

We're spending more per capita on healthcare. All this quibbling about higher taxes and how basic commodities are more expensive is meaningless because as a total amount of money (both public and private spending) we are spending far more than any other country. 

In fact, we spend more on healthcare just in the public sector (like taxes) than Canada already. After which the private spending on top of that gets us to almost double what Canada spends. 

https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/chart-collection/health-spending-u-s-compare-countries/#item-u-s-similar-public-spending-private-sector-spending-triple-comparable-countries

Then stop voting for parties AKA the Democrat party that wants to increase the government's power. Private charities are great because there is a lot to choose from and since they are nonprofit, we know most of our money is going to a good cause instead of the man in the middle aka the government. Also, we can help people like our families or even strangers without private charities. 

We got that technology mostly due to private companies and not the government. The only exception when the government help us with technology and made our lives better is usually through military/defense spending. Which is why I don't mind it as much unless we go to useless wars or pay for useless things.

> wait time

No it isn't, it's been proven Canadians have to wait a long time for health care services.

> higher taxes

No, it isn't meaningless. Canada pay more in taxes and commodities. Over the long run, they would pay a lot more than Americans.

 There are places in America where the cost of basic commodities is crazy high such as California because they are run by Democrats who support big government. That's why so many Californians are going to Republican states like Texas and Alabama. 

That's why we don't support those charities and find another one to support. That's the great thing about competition. Look how Xbox one dropped its price, bought more studios, created the most powerful console and restructure after people spoke up. Same thing with ps3. We can't really choose another federal government. Republicans and Democrats only support welfare because it gives them votes depending where they are running. Republicans tend to support limited welfare but won't flat out cut it because it is career suicide in some regions.

The biggest achievements in Science and health care came from the private sector. The only time Government has ever helped us greatly is with defense spending because not only do we need protection but a lot of the technology we take for granted such as the internet, GPS, microwaves, commercial flight, etc can be traced back to defense/military spending.

A lot of Americans do get health care, what are you talking about. Hell, you can be an illegal immigrant and we will still help you. Almost no one is going to let someone bleed out or die on the streets.

Making health care free makes it where people go to the hospital for the most trivial BS. Not to mention the doctors are in a hurry and more prone to make mistakes.

And it really isn't more complicated where you can compare democrat states against Republican states and see a huge difference in cost.

You know you can be for multiple things at once right? Being a progressive I'm for progressive policies, including the one's I mentioned above, which require government intervention and I'm also for getting money out of politics because I know getting those policies that I and the people want enacted, will be next to impossible to achieve with the current corrupted way that money can easily influence those in the political sector. I'm not against government, I'm against corrupted government.

The Republican party is not the party you want to vote for if you want to decrease the governments involvement. Republicans literally want the government to intervene between women and their doctors, that's not small government that's big government.

I'm not arguing where we got are technology from and frankly I didn't bring that point up because it's irrelevant. The government isn't really there to innovate and make scientific discoveries. Technology is a product of a society working together and building upon collective knowledge to better the entire population. Sounds a little "socialist" if you ask me.