I used to respect you, you know, now I see you're just another one of those users clogging up these forums that wastes everyone's time arguing in circles with them.

And here you are, clogging up the forum by dredging up a discussion that doesn't have anything to do with the current topic just because you're still sore about it. Get over it.

Whatever, you aren't worth my time.

Clearly. Otherwise you wouldn't have started.

I'm just not as willing to call things groundbreaking. That doesn't make me intellectually dishonest, that means we disagree.

It's intellectually dishonest to deliberately misrepresent someone else's argument, which you have done repeatedly.

Because you haven't presented anything that I would consider a real point. You vaguely point to physics when plenty of games have done similar physics, as far back as over a decade ago. I don't see anything revolutionary about an apple becoming cooked when it rolls through fire or fire creating an updraft, and both are points you made first.

You're still doing it now. I never said either of those things was a revolution. If you disagree with me, that's fine, you have every right to do so. But please do not misrepresent my posts by taking bits and pieces of them completely out of context.

I wish I could vote for one game in the poll. If I haaaaaaad to, I'd probably vote for Halo: Combat Evolved. But, I'm not voting.

Anyway, I'll say Halo, Soul Calibur, and Super Mario 64, are my front runners. Honorable mention to favorites Resistance: Fall Of Man, inFamous: Second Son, Super Mario World, Thunder Force II ( Genesis ), Ridge Racer, Tekken, Venture ( ColecoVision ), Super Mario Brothers, Project Gotham Racing.

You said organic physics and used at least the apple example. And when confronted with the idea that other games have done physics as good or better, you vaguely reference "organic" again.