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What Do You Think About The Leak?

It's definitely legit. 8 61.54%
 
It's a fake. 5 38.46%
 
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Machiavellian on 22 April 2019
HollyGamer said:
thismeintiel said:

I think what Sony is doing is putting out just enough information to make Microsoft feel the need to reveal all at E3. Microsoft might reveal that they have same CPU, like last time, and a 12 Tflop high-end console. Then later, Sony reveals that there's is a 12.9-13.5 Tlop console. I think the 12.9 teraflop might be the ticket, as Digital Foundry pointed out that would have the same CUs as the Stadia, 56, if the leaked GPU info was in fact for PS5. That would allow them to tout the same amount of CUs as Google, while also having enough disabled to have higher yields.

Of course, that isn't that much of a difference, but it does allow to talk about having the most powerful console. Now, I think what is more interesting is what kind of tech the GPUs will use. We know 100% that Sony is using Navi, which means all of advancements that comes with. But, is MS using it, as well. Maybe they are using Vega. Or possibly a hybrid of both. If either of those are the case, I think the PS5 will have the more advanced GPU, even if they both have the same theoretical Tflops. 

E3 will be interesting for sure.

Lol you actually has the same mind with me.  It's more of strategy from Sony forcing Microsoft to reveal their card . By revealing sooner , make some hype  but keeping the small detail secret, Sony has left Microsoft on phinced position , Microsoft can only choose between showing their secret to outshine Sony or hiding it but make Sony get all the light and spot. 

If Microsoft want to outshine PS5 they cannot do the same thing and mentioned the same jargon to journalist and fan on E3 , Sony already did with 8k, Raytracing , Audio ray tracing, SSD, and fast loading time. They will have to pull performance number card which is Teraflop number like they did in 2016.

But if they want to hide their Xbox Next power and secret, they will risking losing some hype and some fan support. So it's safe to say SONY indeed made a smart move, what scary from Sony is not their Tech and reset division but their marketing division. 

I kind of doubt this.  It really does not matter when MS is ready to do their reveal because neither company is going to change course on what they are bringing to market.  Its not like Sony can make any last minute changes and neither can MS at this stage.  MS is going on their own strategy and they either made the right decisions or not.  Nothing Sony does will change anything they have planned at this point and this reveal by Sony probably isn't forcing MS to do anything they have not already planned to do.



thismeintiel on 22 April 2019
Machiavellian said:
HollyGamer said:

Lol you actually has the same mind with me.  It's more of strategy from Sony forcing Microsoft to reveal their card . By revealing sooner , make some hype  but keeping the small detail secret, Sony has left Microsoft on phinced position , Microsoft can only choose between showing their secret to outshine Sony or hiding it but make Sony get all the light and spot. 

If Microsoft want to outshine PS5 they cannot do the same thing and mentioned the same jargon to journalist and fan on E3 , Sony already did with 8k, Raytracing , Audio ray tracing, SSD, and fast loading time. They will have to pull performance number card which is Teraflop number like they did in 2016.

But if they want to hide their Xbox Next power and secret, they will risking losing some hype and some fan support. So it's safe to say SONY indeed made a smart move, what scary from Sony is not their Tech and reset division but their marketing division. 

I kind of doubt this.  It really does not matter when MS is ready to do their reveal because neither company is going to change course on what they are bringing to market.  Its not like Sony can make any last minute changes and neither can MS at this stage.  MS is going on their own strategy and they either made the right decisions or not.  Nothing Sony does will change anything they have planned at this point and this reveal by Sony probably isn't forcing MS to do anything they have not already planned to do.

That's not really true, though.  When we are about a year or so away from mass production, there are things that can be changed.  Just last gen, MS upped their clock speed to gain a little more power out of the XBO, trying to one up the PS4 slightly in CPU power, since they definitely lost the GPU game.  And when they released the S, they upped the GPU clock to try and shrink the GPU gap a little.

Sure, I doubt anything major, like going with an entire different chipset.  Though, I guess Sony was forced to do that with the PS3 because their two Cell chip solution wasn't working, so they had to delay it a year.  Nothing is impossible.  I do think something that drastic is unlikely without being forced to like Sony was, though, but we may see them adjust clock speeds and/or a slight adjustment to how many CUs are active.

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thismeintiel on 22 April 2019

The Hell?  I'm pretty sure I hit edit on my post, but it created a new post instead?  And what's with all the A's when you quote someone?  Can we get the old text editor back?

Edit:  Ok, I may have accidentally hit Reply instead of Edit.  Still, what's up with the A's.

Last edited by thismeintiel - on 22 April 2019

 

The_Liquid_Laser on 22 April 2019

Leak looks legit from what I can tell. I don't expect even the legit ones to be 100% right though. A few details can always change between the time of the leak and "official" release of info. In fact the info that Cerny didn't release to us may be what they are still deciding on. Overall looks reliable to me though.



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jonathanalis on 22 April 2019

The difference between 10 and 14 TF would be almost unnoticeable visually.
For now, i think Stadia, PS5, xbox4 anaconda will all be the same thing in visual capabilities.



DonFerrari on 22 April 2019

There is a lot of educated guess with some very precise information tagged along.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari on 22 April 2019
The_Liquid_Laser said:
Leak looks legit from what I can tell. I don't expect even the legit ones to be 100% right though. A few details can always change between the time of the leak and "official" release of info. In fact the info that Cerny didn't release to us may be what they are still deciding on. Overall looks reliable to me though.

They can also give different leaks to spot moles.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Machiavellian on 23 April 2019
thismeintiel said:
Machiavellian said:

I kind of doubt this.  It really does not matter when MS is ready to do their reveal because neither company is going to change course on what they are bringing to market.  Its not like Sony can make any last minute changes and neither can MS at this stage.  MS is going on their own strategy and they either made the right decisions or not.  Nothing Sony does will change anything they have planned at this point and this reveal by Sony probably isn't forcing MS to do anything they have not already planned to do.

That's not really true, though.  When we are about a year or so away from mass production, there are things that can be changed.  Just last gen, MS upped their clock speed to gain a little more power out of the XBO, trying to one up the PS4 slightly in CPU power, since they definitely lost the GPU game.  And when they released the S, they upped the GPU clock to try and shrink the GPU gap a little.

Sure, I doubt anything major, like going with an entire different chipset.  Though, I guess Sony was forced to do that with the PS3 because their two Cell chip solution wasn't working, so they had to delay it a year.  Nothing is impossible.  I do think something that drastic is unlikely without being forced to like Sony was, though, but we may see them adjust clock speeds and/or a slight adjustment to how many CUs are active.

I really doubt it.  Adjusting active CU changes everything as far as cost and yields for the chips but even if MS were willing to do either, neither of those scenarios will be done based on that interview Sony did.  Sony really didn't reveal anything more than what was expected and there wasn't anything groundbreaking that says, we missed something from MS end.  If anything, things seem to be going right in line with expectations and to be honest, its Sony who is in the dark on exactly what MS is cooking up then MS is on what Sony is doing.  Besides the rumor of 2 systems coming out, we really have no clue about what these systems will be bringing to market.



asqarkabab on 02 May 2019

E3 2020 is going to be huge



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thismeintiel on 11 June 2019
the-pi-guy said:
https://uploadvr.com/next-generation-psvr/?fbclid=IwAR3tJ5XJzdcrHHUGZtE2b32faZtILQiKqoICZ30VFA4STlBNPKCHkx3qY3M

Much of the VR features were practically confirmed. Not exactly confirmed, but the expected specifications are practically spot on with the leak. With the two obvious corrections. All the less obvious stuff is correct.

Man, didn't see when you put this up.  Interesting article.  So, let's see how it checks out with the leak.

PSVR2 in 2020, reveal with ps5 - This one is a wait and see, but I think most likely Sony will show all at this year's PSX or E3 2020.

resolution boost probably 2560x1440 - This would put the PSVR2's resolution at ~1.8x that of the PSVR1, so "roughly double."

120hz - Considering Sony was aiming for 60Hz, with the option of interpolated 120Hz, with the PSVR1, I think this is obviously the next goal is native 120hz.

220 field of view - Not sure what happened here.  Could be as simple as a typo, where he meant to type 120, as well. Or misheard the info. Still, if those in doubt wish to chalk it up as a "wrong," then I suppose that's fair.

eye tracking - All but confirmed by the article.

wireless - All but confirmed by the article.  It seems that they may come out with either just a wireless or two different versions, one wired and one wireless.  My guess is that Sony isn't 100% sure just yet on how they will approach that.

battery life 4-5 hours - Have to wait and see on this one.

headphones integrated - Seems likely, since the updated PSVR1 also had them integrated.

less motion sickenss - I'm sure this is always the goal.  And I'm sure they will hit it with a higher resolution and refresh rate.

no breaker box - I'm sure this will happen, though not addressed in the article.

price around 250$ - Another wait and see.  Like I sated before, I take around to mean a range of $250-$300.  I'm sure Sony will have the PSVR1's price down to $199 by the time the PS5 launches, so I don't think it's hard to believe an updated version, mainly just an update in resolution and wireless technology, would be out for $100 more.