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SSD and Ray Tracing are the big news here for me.



This is why Sony isnt going to E3 this year. Nothing to show for PS5. I am guessing it gets a spring/summer 2020 reveal and launches in Nov of that year.

Consider me hyped.



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simek said:
vivster said:
Uhm..... that whole article reads like a marketing fluff piece written by Sony themselves. They're getting really desperate to sell it as something revolutionary when it's a mere simple hardware upgrade. Nothing wrong with a straight upgrade, but I can't take all the marketing bullcrap.

Its a short interview about whats next. I cant see any marketing bullcrap you are talking about. 

South Park was right all along, people really can't distinguish ads from news anymore.

But just to humor you, here are few points that reeked of fake drummed up hype:

"MARK CERNY WOULD like to get one thing out of the way right now: The videogame console that Sony has spent the past four years building is no mere upgrade."
First sentence in the article after which he proceeds to count all the ways the console is merely a hardware upgrade.

"A console’s CPU and GPU become more powerful, able to deliver previously unattainable graphical fidelity and visual effects; system memory increases in size and speed; and game files grow to match, necessitating larger downloads or higher-capacity physical media like discs.

"PlayStation’s next-generation console ticks all those boxes, [...]"
Article does in no way mention new discs, just wanted to present the console as if it does everything.

"While ray tracing is a staple of Hollywood visual effects and is beginning to worm its way into $10,000 high-end processors, no game console has been able to manage it."
Another embellishment. RT is already found in mainstream consumer hardware for less than $1000. Again, trying to make it appear as if it's a gigantic leap. Also past consoles have used RT on a smaller scale.

"So. New CPU, new GPU, the ability to deliver unprecedented visual and audio effects in a game"
At this point the author is practically just sucking Cerny's cock. "Unprecedented" is a word you usually only hear in company keynotes. It's not something a journalist should use about a product he knows nothing about.

"Even opening a door can take over a minute, depending on what’s on the other side and how much more data the game needs to load."
Really? Already building up to the "Revolution" of SSD by making HDDs look worse than they are.

"Xbox One and PS4 both offer external SSDs that claim to improve load times. But not all SSDs are created alike. As Cerny points out, “I have an SSD in my laptop, and when I want to change from Excel to Word I can wait 15 seconds.” What’s built into Sony’s next-gen console is something a little more specialized."
Complete bullhonky. Typical marketing speech. Downplaying every other solution in order to make the new product appear special, which it really isn't.

(Irrelevent unrelaistic presentation resulting in this statement) "What took 15 seconds now takes less than one: 0.8 seconds, to be exact."
Oh he clocked the time by himself? Or might that be just the number fed by the marketing department? It's a statement that the author doesn't even acknowledge as possibly not reflecting reality.

"but he sees the SSD as unlocking an entirely new age, one that upends the very tropes that have become the bedrock of gaming."
Again uncharacteristic flowery language that you would expect from a marketing department rather than a journalist.

"I got a PlayStation 4 Pro and then I put in a SSD that cost as much as the PlayStation 4 Pro—it might be one-third faster." As opposed to 19 times faster for the next-gen console, judging from the fast-travel demo."
More conjectured bullshit. Presenting regular technology as if the new plastic box uses magic that is not found in any consumer grade PC.

Maybe it's my fault for expecting journalistic integrity from a games journalist. I don't have an issue with the PS5 or Sony. I'll probably preorder it anyway because it's a much needed upgrade. My issue is with the article specifically, that tries to drum up unwarranted hype, which is the job of a marketing department, not a news site.

Last edited by vivster - on 16 April 2019

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simek said:
Neodegenerate said:

I couldn't agree more on the controller battery life.  I usually have vibration turned off so that point to me is meh.  Even my Spider-Man edition PS4 controller is already dying much faster than I would want it to when I use it wirelessly. 

Neodegenerate said:

I couldn't agree more on the controller battery life.  I usually have vibration turned off so that point to me is meh.  Even my Spider-Man edition PS4 controller is already dying much faster than I would want it to when I use it wirelessly. 

I think we gonna get all  technichal and strategy  info in september with full lineup  and pricing reavel at PSX. This is just a teaser. Better battery i think should be priority. I dont think wireless charging will be any efficent for gaming (too slow), and too expensive aswell.

All the upcoming games TLOU2, DS etc, to lunch on both systems. Im betting on march 2020 realese with TLOU 2. PS5 is the only reason that we don't  have any news about does games since E3 last year. I expect they will reannonce does games to showcase games running on new hardware.

I agree wireless charging wont do much, But some sort of quick charge is vital. 

although I think the situation with TLoU2 will be similar to TLou1 last gen.. it will release on PS4 prior to launching on PS5.. and it will be used as a showcase to show off how PS5 could improve PS4 games 



Sounds powerful. 2020 can't come soon enough



They promised raytracing on the ps3, i'll wait on the official specs



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kirby007 said:
They promised raytracing on the ps3, i'll wait on the official specs

Sony never promised Ray tracing on PS3 for games, It was just a demonstration of how powerfull PS3 Cell was when used in clustered setup to do specific task on linux. 



Edit: well I'll be damned. This is an actual conversation with cerney? Hot damn. Need to read this

Last edited by bananaking21 - on 16 April 2019

taus90 said:
kirby007 said:
They promised raytracing on the ps3, i'll wait on the official specs

Sony never promised Ray tracing on PS3 for games, It was just a demonstration of how powerfull PS3 Cell was when used in clustered setup to do specific task on linux. 

Just like what OPs source says ehmm hmmm



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kirby007 said:
taus90 said:

Sony never promised Ray tracing on PS3 for games, It was just a demonstration of how powerfull PS3 Cell was when used in clustered setup to do specific task on linux. 

Just like what OPs source says ehmm hmmm

OP's Source is Wired Exclusive interview with Mark Cerny. Promoted By every playstation Twitter Handle. This is not a leak or Rumor its official. 

Also considering that ray tracing is reality on Nvidia cards and now even on older generation cards, A custom Ray tracing solution designed for closed off API will be much more efficient that a PC version.