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d21lewis said:
I think The Last Jedi gets "a bad rap" but TFA, while fun, seems to get a pass. With the original trilogy, a story arch is complete. Luke goes from farm boy to hero of the Galaxy, Han goes from scoundrel to loyal friend willing to sacrifice his happiness, etc. Vader redeems himself (as much as he could, I guess.). The big villain is defeated. Everything is tied up in a neat little bow.

With the current trilogy, they untied the bow and kinda took a dump in the box. Han went back to being a criminal for some reason. Luke became... whatever he became. Now, it seems like even the big villain who finally got defeated in the end didn't even get his comeuppance.

I love Star Wars. I always will, even when I hate it. People say the old movies will always be there--but it does effect the enjoyment when you know that the happy ending doesn't really end up happily for anyone. They meet mostly tragic ends. I salivated at the idea of more Star Wars with modern technology but now it kinda makes me sad.

Despite all of their flaws, the prequels had a central cast that I cared about. Sure, they were no Luke, Han, and Leia but I enjoyed Anakin, Obi Wan, and Padme. The familiar characters like Yoda seemed to be treated with respect. The new trilogy, so far, hasn't given me someone to cheer for and the old characters have become sad and unfamiliar. This, on top of the directionless story and unimaginative worlds and scenarios we've come to expect.

Rise of Skywalker really has its work cut out for itself.

Totally agree with you there. I usually get caught up on the TLJ talk but my issues with this trilogy actually began with the TFA for all the reasons you just said.

And it especially bothers me the bold part. Now everything about the previous movies feel worthless.

The Skywalker saga was already finished (and very nicely finished at that). They really should have used a totally different storyline for this new trilogy.



Shadow1980 said:
haxxiy said:

I agree! But then, you'd pretty much kill Reddit, Facebook and Youtube comments in one blow.

Not to mention the omnipresent like-dislike and star rating buttons...

Hell, they've even added an "agree" button in VGchartz posts as a new feature. So things aren't getting better anytime soon.

I do indeed blame the internet. I never saw inter- and intra-fandom "wars" get as nasty as they did once everyone had an anonymous platform from which to speak. I was in middle school when the 16-bit wars were raging, but honestly that "war" was mostly a close sales race, with a one-sided attack campaign from Sega of America. Among my friends and classmates, we honestly did not make a huge deal about whether we thought the SNES or Genesis was better, but that's because we all knew each other and were around each other all the time. In the internet age, it's become fashionable to attack people for liking the "wrong" console, movie, TV show, etc.

chakkra said:

Well, I guess life is not perfect.


I wish I had enjoyed this new trilogy more and that it didn't ruin the whole franchise for me. But alas, I couldn't get what I wanted. Now you wish you didn´t hear people complaining so much about the movie. But alas, you're not gonna get what you want either because, sorry to tell you this, but I´m afraid we're gonna be complaining about this one for all eternity.

Now you can keep on your crusade to defend it. It is not my place to tell you to stop. I mean, at the end of the day we like what we like. But like I said, I would advise you to not get so worked up about people not liking someone else's work.

One post calling out the haters ≠ a crusade.

It's almost like you're intentionally trying to antagonize me. So, would you kindly just not bother replying to anything I have to say on this topic anymore?

I really was not going to.



I feel some overstate the horrible nature of TLJ and I especially have a distaste for those who inject their social politic bs into it (whether it comes from either "side"). I feel like with the internet especially, people just drive eachother into a frenzy and things snowball to ridiculous levels.

I wish we can just call it an incredibly dumb and boring movie and leave it at that, move on a hope J.J. will be able to salvage something from the mess left to him with Episode IX.

But I suppose some people take it personally when they see their one of their cherished franchises being left in ruin (at least this is how I see it). To me it's a bit childish and pointless, but so is it childish and pointless to those who seem to take it personal that OTHERS hate this movie, or worse - attack and negatively label others for doing so. Like, what do you care? They have a right to vent about it, given the circumstances, especially those who spent their money to go see it. What's the old saying, "the customer is always right"?

Personally, I still think Episode I is the worst Star Wars film ever made, though the Last Jedi is a close second :P (it certainly looks much nicer visually w/some cool effects, and I prefer the darker tinge to the goofy kiddie themes, Kylo and even Luke at least had hints of depth at times, but in the end it was just very poorly executed).

I am still planning on seeing Episode IX if only because J.J. is back to directing it and it's looking like Palpatine and Luke will be making returns (at least in some form), though TLJ did indeed kill 80% of my hype and sense of wonder I once felt towards this series.



 

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DarthMetalliCube said:

I feel some overstate the horrible nature of TLJ and I especially have a distaste for those who inject their social politic bs into it (whether it comes from either "side"). I feel like with the internet especially, people just drive eachother into a frenzy and things snowball to ridiculous levels.

I wish we can just call it an incredibly dumb and boring movie and leave it at that, move on a hope J.J. will be able to salvage something from the mess left to him with Episode IX.

But I suppose some people take it personally when they see their one of their cherished franchises being left in ruin (at least this is how I see it). To me it's a bit childish and pointless, but so is it childish and pointless to those who seem to take it personal that OTHERS hate this movie, or worse - attack and negatively label others for doing so. Like, what do you care? They have a right to vent about it, given the circumstances, especially those who spent their money to go see it. What's the old saying, "the customer is always right"?

Personally, I still think Episode I is the worst Star Wars film ever made, though the Last Jedi is a close second :P (it certainly looks much nicer visually w/some cool effects, and I prefer the darker tinge to the goofy kiddie themes, Kylo and even Luke at least had hints of depth at times, but in the end it was just very poorly executed).

I am still planning on seeing Episode IX if only because J.J. is back to directing it and it's looking like Palpatine and Luke will be making returns (at least in some form), though TLJ did indeed kill 80% of my hype and sense of wonder I once felt towards this series.

I will probably skip the first week, at least, just as my form of...I dunno, anger over the last one. I know it does nothing in the overall picture, but I guess it'll mean something to me.

At first I was excited about Palpatine coming back, but now, the more I think about it, the more I feel like its just taking away from the original trilogy and what Luke and Vader accomplished by killing him. It almost feels like they are trying to completely take any and all accomplishments and heroics from Luke. And yes, I am overly sensitive about Luke, and I readily acknowledge that. 

Now I'm sure they'll just have Rey kill him, for good this time, because Luke wasn't good enough to do it, but Rey, in her all powerfulness, will do it with ease. 

Damn, I hate being this bitter.



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DarthMetalliCube said:

I feel some overstate the horrible nature of TLJ and I especially have a distaste for those who inject their social politic bs into it (whether it comes from either "side"). I feel like with the internet especially, people just drive eachother into a frenzy and things snowball to ridiculous levels.

I wish we can just call it an incredibly dumb and boring movie and leave it at that, move on a hope J.J. will be able to salvage something from the mess left to him with Episode IX.

But I suppose some people take it personally when they see their one of their cherished franchises being left in ruin (at least this is how I see it). To me it's a bit childish and pointless, but so is it childish and pointless to those who seem to take it personal that OTHERS hate this movie, or worse - attack and negatively label others for doing so. Like, what do you care? They have a right to vent about it, given the circumstances, especially those who spent their money to go see it. What's the old saying, "the customer is always right"?

Personally, I still think Episode I is the worst Star Wars film ever made, though the Last Jedi is a close second :P (it certainly looks much nicer visually w/some cool effects, and I prefer the darker tinge to the goofy kiddie themes, Kylo and even Luke at least had hints of depth at times, but in the end it was just very poorly executed).

I am still planning on seeing Episode IX if only because J.J. is back to directing it and it's looking like Palpatine and Luke will be making returns (at least in some form), though TLJ did indeed kill 80% of my hype and sense of wonder I once felt towards this series.

You see JJ.Abrams working on a movie as something positive?

Bruh... He made Alias and Lost... Him being on a movie is as bad a sign as the LJN logo.



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epicurean said:
DarthMetalliCube said:

I feel some overstate the horrible nature of TLJ and I especially have a distaste for those who inject their social politic bs into it (whether it comes from either "side"). I feel like with the internet especially, people just drive eachother into a frenzy and things snowball to ridiculous levels.

I wish we can just call it an incredibly dumb and boring movie and leave it at that, move on a hope J.J. will be able to salvage something from the mess left to him with Episode IX.

But I suppose some people take it personally when they see their one of their cherished franchises being left in ruin (at least this is how I see it). To me it's a bit childish and pointless, but so is it childish and pointless to those who seem to take it personal that OTHERS hate this movie, or worse - attack and negatively label others for doing so. Like, what do you care? They have a right to vent about it, given the circumstances, especially those who spent their money to go see it. What's the old saying, "the customer is always right"?

Personally, I still think Episode I is the worst Star Wars film ever made, though the Last Jedi is a close second :P (it certainly looks much nicer visually w/some cool effects, and I prefer the darker tinge to the goofy kiddie themes, Kylo and even Luke at least had hints of depth at times, but in the end it was just very poorly executed).

I am still planning on seeing Episode IX if only because J.J. is back to directing it and it's looking like Palpatine and Luke will be making returns (at least in some form), though TLJ did indeed kill 80% of my hype and sense of wonder I once felt towards this series.

I will probably skip the first week, at least, just as my form of...I dunno, anger over the last one. I know it does nothing in the overall picture, but I guess it'll mean something to me.

At first I was excited about Palpatine coming back, but now, the more I think about it, the more I feel like its just taking away from the original trilogy and what Luke and Vader accomplished by killing him. It almost feels like they are trying to completely take any and all accomplishments and heroics from Luke. And yes, I am overly sensitive about Luke, and I readily acknowledge that. 

Now I'm sure they'll just have Rey kill him, for good this time, because Luke wasn't good enough to do it, but Rey, in her all powerfulness, will do it with ease. 

Damn, I hate being this bitter.

I think I will watch it online.

At first I was excited when I heard Luke and Palpatine's voice but then I remembered that that is exactly how they lured me in to the last two movies. So I feel if I fall for it a third time and then get dissapointed again, then I won't have anyone to blame but myself. If I watch it online at least I will have the consolation of not giving them my money.



/ Yeah I'll probably just wait an extra year or two when it inevitably hits Netflix/on demand on my cable service. Unless a group of friends are like dying to see it in the theater, which my friends and I don't typically do much these days. Now it's usually hanging out at bars if anything ha



 

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I think part of my faith in Disney to get IX right is their achievements with other universes, like Toy Story from Pixar, but especially Marvel.

In a few hours I am off to see Avengers: Endgame. According to reviewers it is incredible, nearly as good as The Last Jedi.

https://www.metacritic.com/movie/avengers-endgame?ref=hp



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starcraft said:
I think part of my faith in Disney to get IX right is their achievements with other universes, like Toy Story from Pixar, but especially Marvel.

In a few hours I am off to see Avengers: Endgame. According to reviewers it is incredible, nearly as good as The Last Jedi.

https://www.metacritic.com/movie/avengers-endgame?ref=hp

Agreed and have fun. 



 

Looks better than TLJ, at least.



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