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Forums - Sales Discussion - Switch Close to Passing Sales of N64 (UPDATE: Now Passed!)

Soundwave on 05 April 2019

N64 is an example of a console that should have sold 70-100 million units and was totally shot in the foot by really dumb hardware decisions. If they had compromised and included a CD drive, they would have beat Sony that generation because 3rd party devs like Squaresoft, Enix, Capcom, EA, would have no reason to bail out.

The fact that it sold as well as it did with such a low number of software titles released is impressive. 



OTBWY on 05 April 2019

You get yourself one of these and have a good time.



Bofferbrauer2 on 05 April 2019
OTBWY said:

You get yourself one of these and have a good time.

Looks like if the Gamecube and N64 had a baby out of a threesome with Pikachu

But looks very functional.



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OTBWY on 05 April 2019
Bofferbrauer2 said:
OTBWY said:

You get yourself one of these and have a good time.

Looks like if the Gamecube and N64 had a baby out of a threesome with Pikachu

But looks very functional.

I have a gold one. It's nice but it is small though. Theres also this awesome looking thing https://retrofighters.com/our-collection/brawler64-nextgen-n64-controller-colors/

I however don't know how they actually play. The stick is always an issue.



The_Liquid_Laser on 05 April 2019

It's a milestone sure, but I don't know why there is so much love for the N64. It was Nintendo's worst selling console at the time and it marked when Nintendo lost the first place spot in the home console business. N64 didn't do terribly well from a business perspective, especially when compared to Nintendo's other systems at the time: NES, SNES and Gameboy.



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GoOnKid on 05 April 2019

Whenever I held the controller at the middle and right handle and a game rquired a L-Button input I used to slap it with my right palm. So satisfying.



Mandalore76 on 05 April 2019
CosmicSex said:
RolStoppable said:

Yes, we know that. We also know that you don't understand how sales curves work, because you predict an incredibly sharp drop-off for Switch after 2019, which results in Switch selling only ~17m units from January 2020 until the very end of its lifecycle.

So if the goal is to have a realistic conversation, then the first thing that needs to happen is acknowledgement on your part that your outdated lifetime sales prediction for Switch does not make any sense at the current date anymore.

While I understand how sales curves work, it is also my belief that Nintendo will end, of it's own free will, the Switch.  I believe the rumors that say that there is a new version on the horizon.  That is why I insinuated that if we really treat it as a Pro then it will change the nature of the conversation.  

I hold that the Switch, in its current incarnation, will top out at 65 to 70 million before that happens.  An informed response would simply to suggest that the new model will in fact be a pro numbers and then I could have reevaluated.   

It sounds like we need to have a more grounded conversation where we try to understand each others projections or predictions. 

PS4 Pro sales #'s haven't been separated from PS4's total.  Why would a Switch Pro be considered the end of liftetime Switch sales?  If we are counting "Pro" sales separately, then I don't think PS4 base model has passed PS3 sales yet.



OTBWY on 05 April 2019
The_Liquid_Laser said:
It's a milestone sure, but I don't know why there is so much love for the N64. It was Nintendo's worst selling console at the time and it marked when Nintendo lost the first place spot in the home console business. N64 didn't do terribly well from a business perspective, especially when compared to Nintendo's other systems at the time: NES, SNES and Gameboy.

It was a profitable console and it was making enough money right with the Pokemon craze. So it did do well enough just not PS1 numbers. Also the system had some of the most influential and gamechaning titles then. Its influences can still be seen today.



The_Liquid_Laser on 05 April 2019
OTBWY said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:
It's a milestone sure, but I don't know why there is so much love for the N64. It was Nintendo's worst selling console at the time and it marked when Nintendo lost the first place spot in the home console business. N64 didn't do terribly well from a business perspective, especially when compared to Nintendo's other systems at the time: NES, SNES and Gameboy.

It was a profitable console and it was making enough money right with the Pokemon craze. So it did do well enough just not PS1 numbers. Also the system had some of the most influential and gamechaning titles then. Its influences can still be seen today.

Yeah, but everything you just said can also be applied to the Wii U.  This description basically paints the N64 as a niche console with some very vocal fans.  If that is your assertion, then I can agree with that.  N64 is a lot like the Dreamcast or the Wii U.



curl-6 bet me that PS5 + X|S sales would reach 56m before year end 2023 and he was right.
My Bet With curl-6

My Threads:
Master Thread, Game of the Year/Decade
Switch Will Be #1 All Time
Zelda Will Outsell Mario (Achieved)
How Much Will MH Rise sell?
My Bet With Metallox

Bofferbrauer2 on 05 April 2019
Mandalore76 said:
CosmicSex said:

While I understand how sales curves work, it is also my belief that Nintendo will end, of it's own free will, the Switch.  I believe the rumors that say that there is a new version on the horizon.  That is why I insinuated that if we really treat it as a Pro then it will change the nature of the conversation.  

I hold that the Switch, in its current incarnation, will top out at 65 to 70 million before that happens.  An informed response would simply to suggest that the new model will in fact be a pro numbers and then I could have reevaluated.   

It sounds like we need to have a more grounded conversation where we try to understand each others projections or predictions. 

PS4 Pro sales #'s haven't been separated from PS4's total.  Why would a Switch Pro be considered the end of liftetime Switch sales?  If we are counting "Pro" sales separately, then I don't think PS4 base model has passed PS3 sales yet.

Possibly, but it wouldn't be too far off now either. I suspect PS4 Pro sales are around 7-10M by now (around a third of the PS4 consoles in the US right now are Pros, for instance), so if the base consoles haven't passed the bar yet, they will do so very soon.



The Nintendo eShop rating Thread: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=237454 List as Google Doc:  https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aW2hXQT1TheElVS7z-F3pP-7nbqdrDqWNTxl6JoJWBY/edit?usp=sharing

The Steam/GOG key gifting thread: https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/242024/the-steamgog-key-gifting-thread/1/ 

Free Pc Games thread: https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/248138/free-pc-games/1/