Mate, we've told you this time and time again.

Valve are making 3 VR games, they've released a game last year, and they even want to reboot it like SE rebooted FFXIV, like how Ubisoft stuck with RB6S. They have a VR headset+controllers on the way and the VR games to go with it, as well as a store revamp. They are actually doing shit and you're flat out ignoring this, spinning this as if it's Epic doing a superior job, doing the majority of the work while ignoring what Steam is doing and having the absolute balls to claim that what Epic is doing will magically benefit me.

The thing is it won't, nicking games from all other storefronts doesn't fucking benefit me. All you want is HL3 and I know for a fact that even if they did, it'd never live up to expectations, mine included and that you'd slam them for it, like an inserted self fulfilling prophecy. I want new games from Valve, not Assassins Creed style "I want more of this one game" kind of garbage. You like Ass creed?, that's dandy, but spamming like it's Final Fantasy isn't exactly a good thing for every single game, especially when said game has lost the majority of it's writers, but you want to see it fly and crash for the sake of seeing it fly for a few seconds. 

EGS isn't afraid to spend money because it's living off of one game. Tim thinks he's going to become as big as google and that's both pompous and incredibly arrogant. Show me where the speech is where Gaben acted as smug as that. EGS as Jim puts it would rather "destroy" it's "competition" rather than co-existing with it. Valve so far hasn't gone out of it's way to eliminate everyone else. Valve in all the time GoG has been around, wasn't the one that took down it's fair price policy, that's on Epic and their brute force bullshit tactics. That's not healthy competition at all. 

The PC industry has been awake this whole damn time, where have you actually been this whole time,fellow "PC" gamer?. 

Their monopoly is apparently strong enough that people start to cry if a PC game isn't released on Steam. Like they cried when games went exclusive on the Windows store. Because apparently Steam is so ubiquitous already that it's a crime to not release on it. What other platform on PC is able to mobilize the entire PC community if a handful of games skip their store?

Great that you know the definition of a monopoly. Now you also might want to look up the words "de facto".

I've never seen so much doomsaying and gnashing of teeth over something so trivial. First world problems, indeed.

I have a PC, I have money, I want to play this game, I'll buy it wherever it's being sold, and I'm pretty sure I'll be okay afterwards.

VR will be popular one day.. but as of right now.. 3 VR games isn't going to please 95% of Steams community while EGS customers are playing The Outer Worlds, Borderland 3 and many more future timed exclusives.

Epic will most likely make another game that everyone can play while Valve are making games that not everyone can play, can you see the difference here?

We all want a HL3 but I don't want one unless its done right and I am happy to wait for, if that ever happens. For now I am looking forward to Black Mesa Xen.

Where have I been you asked? Playing PC games actually, Just tried out Darksiders 3, Darkness 2 and Furi (which was on sale) all on Steam. I guess I am just waiting for the next big AAA game but it seems I have to wait months to a year for some of them. Thanks for asking. 

The reality of the situation is simply that right now Epic offers a better deal for developers and publishers compared to Steam, at least when it comes to high profile companies like Xearbox. Whether people like it or not that's just how it is right now. It gets the Epic Store more publicity and significant exclusives, even if they are timed, and it's no different from what companies have been doing in this industry for decades. Unless this starts to significantly impact their sales and profits I doubt much will change in the near future, and if past "gamer boycots" are anything to go by, it won't.

Possibly RDR 2 also. https://www.dsogaming.com/news/rumour-red-dead-redemption-2-pc-may-be-revealed-on-april-22nd-as-an-epic-games-store-exclusive/

Well depends on the game, Borderlands as a franchise became big thanks to its million fans especially also on steam. They made a lot of money thanks to their fans and they deserved it but now they seem to prefer to screw those fans for a big cheque. It seems to be a logical step to release you games on all platforms on or on so much as possible for your fans but now it seems game devs are making games to make a lot of money.

VR is taking off now. It's been popular with Sony and PC before that when you gander at Youtube. Dismissing 3 games by Valve is honestly hand waving what they're making. It's honestly sound massive like "make Hl3 or sod off" to me. I want Valve to make actual games, games that aren't a seuel to a dead game, with one writer left, because I don't want it to turn to utter garbage. 

One single game from Epic isn't going to please everybody either, just like how a large chunk of this planet doesn't like Minecraft. If you're going to use an argument like that, to do away with 3 games that have spent years in dev, then the same can be used against other games as well. Just because they aren't your cuppa, doesn't mean they are no one's cuppa.

I'm not even into VR atm, but I'm going to give props to Valve for not only getting 3 VR games out, but also a headset of their own and a very nifty set of knuckle controllers, which for what they can do, do a far better job than what's currently out there on the market. 

"future timed", yeah, but they land on Steam, so really, at the end of the day, Steam users get Valve's 3 VR games and those timed games in the end, and since Valve have more features and more games on their store to begin with, that still gives them the superior advantage. That and the store key deals as well, which Epic hardly has, nor wants to support for "exclusive" titles.

What game will this be pray tell?. Again, very cock sure about the future like your previous talk about MS and knowing the definitive future. Tell me what definitive, definitely going to happen future, where Epic releases this game that absolutely everyone will play, where they basically become akin to Google in popularity (because the smug guy recently talks like he's going to become that big, and you're obviously setting up this unannounced game to being something earth shattering). No there is no difference, this is you just downplaying anything Valve could ever possibly do, and I bet you'd be willing to use that last part as a mirror retort, to do away with what I just said, instead of realizing the actual difference. 

Not everyone wants HL3. I don't, because the majority of writers are gone, time has passed greatly, and the spark that was once had has very greatly diminished. Now it's just a small bunch egging on Valve to make whatever they can of a game, without the original writers, to a point where it's clearly and obviously not going to live up to their expectations, to which those same people will grab bats and start beating Valve "why didn't you make it perfect like we asked?", without fucking known the circumstances for why the dream is dead. I hate and will loathe people who wish to see something tarnished, just for the sake of a dopamine fix I don't want new shitty writers added in. I want the original writers back, I want the original spark, not some shitty 343 type spark, where it clearly ended up fucking with the lore of another certain game. I've seen it in god damn movies and I don't want to see it in games. Same goes for Fable.

People that don't care for the actual substance and lore, have no right to talk about wanting anything, quite literally, get out for anyone that doesn't care about what makes something special. I also don't want a Hl 4,5,6,7,8,9, you know, like Ass Creed. Spamming franchises into the ground doesn't make them objectively good either. This desire to spam something, until *you* get bored of it, is what ruins gaming, because in all that time, we could be getting brand new IP's, brand new ideas for another game, rather than the same game over and over again. 

I look forward to you in depth review and talk of Xen when it arrives. I'd like to see the dedication to this franchise, that I've only heard your interest in, within the past year. (Also, stop by the main PC forum, even some console users are asking for rig help).

It sounds like you've been under a rock, because in all honesty, you haven't been very involved with PC gaming on here until a year and a half at best. You've made the odd few comments, but nothing in terms of making your own PC related threads, that aren't designed to signal boost Epic or the Win 10 store, or going on about an unreleased HL episode.

That's a shame for you. Could always grab them on that #1 store of yours in the meantime. I've grabbed myself Tropico 6, since those devs aren't being total douchebags and signing exclusivity deals. Was originally going to look into buying the latest Anno, but Ubisoft clearly wants to pull out of Steam, and thus doesn't want my money, so I guess I don't want any of their games anymore. Also the latest Two Point Hospital DLC is out, as well as Seven's DLC (free of course).

Seems that way.

https://www.polygon.com/2019/4/5/18295833/epic-games-store-controversy-explained

"More concerning to some, however, is the fact that the Epic Games Store client makes a local copy of Steam files without first asking the user’s permission. Sweeney himself stepped into the Reddit thread to say that’s not OK, even if that data is only shared with Epic when users opt in.

'The current implementation is a remnant left over from our rush to implement social features in the early days of Fortnite,' Sweeney says on Reddit. 'It’s actually my fault for pushing the launcher team to support it super quickly and then identifying that we had to change it. Since this issue came to the forefront we’re going to fix it.'"

Well at least this time they said it wintin a week of the reveal rather than a week from release, so you didn't all get caught out.