Raven said:
Runa216 said:
While I agree wholeheartedly with everything here, I have to ask: When was the last time you actually saw ANY political debate, regardless of Trump's inclusion? Like 90% of it is just baseless insults, nonsensical garbage, bullshit talking points, and shit-slinging. While Trump is by far the worst, he is by no means the only one to completely miss the point of debate in politics.
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There's always a certain degree of partisanship during political debates because you're looking at two people who have opposing views. The 2008 debates are a far cry from the state of things during the 2016 debates though. There were disagreements but overall a much more civil and substantive discussion about how their views and policy positions differed:
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This makes me so, SO sad. seeing those two discuss things in a relatively calm, collected manner is....wow what the fuck happened to America? Like, I know it's not cool to just lump people together or be hateful towards groups, but the fact that republicans support Trump in spite of his immature behaviour and unqualified nature when contrasted against how much they HATE Obama despite him clearly being educated and passionate and...you know, in touch with reality...it infuriates me. It angers me to no end that there are people out there who are so clearly guided by party lines as opposed to logic and reason that they'll support Trump and hate Obama when Obama is/was clearly the more qualified individual.
Honestly? the fact that Hilary didn't win the election despite her being similarly far more qualified than Trump is just baffling. She was weird and awkward, but I'd take 'old person trying and failing to be hip/cool' over 'narcissist nihilist who doesn't seem to give a shit about anyone but himself and is clearly just doing it for the media exposure' any day. We have a shady politician vs a reality TV personality. I'd rather take the politician to do my politics over that, any day.
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