uran10 said:
Oh and for those celebrating, here comes Warren being well.... WARren :)
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She's a 🤡. DNC money contributes to her campaign since that money will help get her elected if she's the nominee.
uran10 said:
Oh and for those celebrating, here comes Warren being well.... WARren :)
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She's a 🤡. DNC money contributes to her campaign since that money will help get her elected if she's the nominee.
morenoingrato said: Is it really wrong to use big donors to raise money for the *party*? Do you people not want to beat Susan Collins? Thom Tillis? Gardner? McSally? Retake key legislatures to stop gerrymandering? Do you think McConnell will happily pass whichever ambitious proposals you all want? |
Getting money from big donors isn't always bad but Warren is saying she won't lobby them for her campaign but for the party. Money the DNC raises will go to help her get elected so at the end of the day she will be using big donors in the general. She's a snake.
jason1637 said:
Getting money from big donors isn't always bad but Warren is saying she won't lobby them for her campaign but for the party. Money the DNC raises will go to help her get elected so at the end of the day she will be using big donors in the general. She's a snake. |
Whatever, you guys are delusional. Money is always something a campaign for the Presidency needs and having less money will mean you cannot compete in as many states as you will want. Personally I will just wait to see how things shake out before making any type of decisions on her personal character. People seem to come out of the wood works with all of these high and mighty principals but seem to easily throw them away when it matters.
Machiavellian said:
Whatever, you guys are delusional. Money is always something a campaign for the Presidency needs and having less money will mean you cannot compete in as many states as you will want. Personally I will just wait to see how things shake out before making any type of decisions on her personal character. People seem to come out of the wood works with all of these high and mighty principals but seem to easily throw them away when it matters. |
I'll point out 2 things to you.
1st: Look at the amount of Money bernie raised by small $ donors only.
2nd: Bernie hasn't run on any big money ever, for over 40 years.
His character is as clear as they come while others are.... trying to play people like Obama did. No thanks, I'm watching records and actions and the choice is clear. I'm also going to point out that while money is important, Bernie is raising a lot and he has more boots on the ground which will go further than money. He has people canvassing in all the states as well as donating. He's got the numbers to win and even more people are volunteering and working to help him get elected through his app. I should Know cause I'm one of them.
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Machiavellian said:
Whatever, you guys are delusional. Money is always something a campaign for the Presidency needs and having less money will mean you cannot compete in as many states as you will want. Personally I will just wait to see how things shake out before making any type of decisions on her personal character. People seem to come out of the wood works with all of these high and mighty principals but seem to easily throw them away when it matters. |
If she never made the statement and raised money from big donors I'd just take it as business as usual cause raising money is important for a campaign. The issue is that he said she won't be doing this but at the end of the day lobbying big donors for the DNC will be raising money for her campaign. It shows had poor her character is.
Machiavellian said:
Whatever, you guys are delusional. Money is always something a campaign for the Presidency needs and having less money will mean you cannot compete in as many states as you will want. Personally I will just wait to see how things shake out before making any type of decisions on her personal character. People seem to come out of the wood works with all of these high and mighty principals but seem to easily throw them away when it matters. |
Wait what. No.
Money will always come from small donors as has been proven within campaigns of multiple candidates. But do you want giant corporations paying huge sums of money to politicians and not expect them to do their bidding? You think big donors just donate money cause they believe in the candidate? It's legal bribery at its basic core and one of the biggest problems in US's political system. You need campaign reform yesterday.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-congress-democrats/house-passes-democrats-campaign-finance-ethics-bill-idUSKCN1QP1ZZ
How many of these Democrats only took money from Bernie-grassroot-activists?
I support campaign reform, but Democrats actually need to win to pass it, and to win they need money lest they have a massive handicap.
Maybe the trick can work in the presidency, but there are many races (especially considering redistricting is coming soon) where funding is going to get tight. This purity-at-all-costs is sounds nice and all, until Republicans take the Senate and gerrymander the shit out of the places they can.
Strange dicussion here in light of the coming election. Money won't make the real difference since Trump won while being outspend by Hillary 2 to 1.
Link: https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/graphics/2016-presidential-campaign-fundraising/
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Stefan.De.Machtige said: Strange dicussion here in light of the coming election. Money won't make the real difference since Trump won while being outspend by Hillary 2 to 1. |
Thanks for posting this, I was also gonna go down the line of other dems such as AOC being outspent as well. People are paying more attention to where the money is coming from and a big part of that is bernie in 2016 but also Obama. You can say a lot of flowery things but we already know you're in bed with your donors. If you think taking money from the same ones trying to stop campaign reform to "win" will get anything passed you haven't been paying attention. Bernie's already got a solution on that and is leading the charge for publicly funded elections and election reform. He's changing non voters to first time voters or getting them back into voting as well by showing he isn't bought.
In this day and age with more people paying attention, big money hurts more than it could ever help.
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jason1637 said:
If she never made the statement and raised money from big donors I'd just take it as business as usual cause raising money is important for a campaign. The issue is that he said she won't be doing this but at the end of the day lobbying big donors for the DNC will be raising money for her campaign. It shows had poor her character is. |
It shows how silly she was in not making sure she had her message right more than anything else. I am not a Warren fan so no skin in the game for her from me. I just believe that she needs to slow down and really plan out her message and truly understand how she can raise enough money to be relevant in the Presidential race if she is serious. She already sits on a platform that doesn't favor big money to begin with so she better have a plan B to get the cash needed to make a strong case for the nomination.