The difference is Sanders doesn't have a choice. Warren has a choice to not take money from big donors and I hope she won't because I believe that would be the right choice.

Why does Bernie Sanders have no choice but to take money from big donors, but Elizabeth Warren does? I don't follow.

Anyway, that's not even the point of my post.

The point of my post is that candidates (like Bernie and Warren) are hamstringing themselves because of a simple campaign gimmick. They can play by the rules AND change them after.

Wow. So Jason just flat-out lied then?

No. The last primary wad DC on June 14th.

Bernie doesn't have a choice participating in the electoral college process. Your comparison was flawed, I was simply pointing it out.

That's not what I said. Why does he have to base his campaign strategy around winning within the electoral college system? He most certainly doesn't have to do that, it's simply the smarter way to go about it given the current ruleset.

That's not relevant; Bernie only continued with the DC primary because he promised to, the race was already lost, and he lost the DC primary spectacularly; largely because its outcome was irrelevant and voters wanted to show support to Clinton. Clinton won a majority and the popular vote on June 7th, and Elizabeth Warren's endorsement was announced on June 9th.

What you're trying to argue is that there was some difference between Warren's endorsement and that of Bernie Sanders, which is purely fictional and a blatantly hypocritical narrative. The only difference is that Bernie was later.

I like Bernie and Warren, but they have some really unpopular ideas lurking in their campaigns. Free healthcare for illegal immigrants, a 50% sales tax on ammo, decriminalizing illegal border crossings, and legal drug dens. These are all just terrible, and unpopular ideas.

Biden on the other hand doesn't have any of these extreme left ideas, but is just so damned old. He'll be 78 when sworn into office. And if he dies while in office, then that's a harder election in 2024 for his vice president, since incumbents have an advantage.

I really wish there were a more moderate, younger frontrunner out there. But I really don't think anybody other than Biden/Sanders/Warren stands a chance at this point.


I really wish there

There is a difference. Warren had the chance to endorse Bernie earlier in the race but instead when the primaries were ending she endorsed Clinton which goes against what she had been fighting against.

Bernie endorsed Clinton after it was all said and done because his alternative was a Republican.

Basickly what i'm saying is that Warren had the opportunity to endorse Bernie and instead went to endorse Clinton at the end of the primary.

Free healthcare for tax payers, you mean. Most undocumented immigrants still pay taxes. Besides, they're human beings in our country, are you just going to let them die? No? So then you want them to be here illegally and too bankrupt to leave or attempt to obtain legal status? No, don't like that outcome either? Then just have the hospitals take care of them. Can you imagine how absurdly complex the process would have to be if under normal circumstances, everyone who walks into a hospital gets service for free and the government sends the hospitals a check, but for a certain class of citizens, the hospital has to have a whole different payment system in place? Come on man. Forget just immigrants, I think it should be free to tourists. Every other developed country has universal healthcare too so it's not like we'd be invaded by people trying to get free healthcare. It's not exteme left at all, it's just respect for human rights and the simplest, most pragmatic way to do it.

And what's wrong with the ammo tax? If you're buying a reasonable amount it's not a big deal. It's just there to prevent stockpiling, and make it more difficult for domestic terrorists to acquire the arms they need to attack. It's not "exteme left" any more than the gas taxes in this country, which are also pretty high in some places to raise funding for rebuilding roads (though it doesn't work because law enforcement usually raids these funds to pay for traffic cops).

And what's the big deal with border crossings anyway? Most undocumented immigrants crossed legally, but just overstayed their visa, which isn't a crime, or even a misdemeanor. It's a civil infraction, like jaywalking. Why should border crossers be any different? They could still be deported if the law says they have to be deported, but they wouldn't have to be detained, so you wouldn't have the issue of parents being separated from children. That's not extreme left, it's just the most pragmatic way to enforce the law in a humane fashion.

And what the fuck are you talking about legal drug dens? You mean the regulated areas meant to give addicts a safe place to do the drugs they're addicted to under the supervision of people that can ensure they don't overdose and die? That's just a pragmatic way to prevent drug deaths. How the fuck else are we supposed to deal with the opioid crisis? People are dying every day man, and none of them seek help because they're afraid. The war on drugs doesn't work, not in the way we do it now. It'd be so much easier to just give them a safe place, and then they'll all come there and be super easy to reach with services to get them UN-addicted. It's just smart drug policy, not "eXtReMe lEFtiSM!" Not to mention, if we can get the people doing the drugs to come to us unafraid and help them get off them, they'll be more likely to rat out their sources, and we can remove the problem at its source! I'm telling you man, it's time to get smart about the drug problem. We've been trying the same stupid "DRUGS ARE BAD AND IF YOU DO THEM YOU'RE BAD TOO" tactics since the 80s and it doesn't work. Just treat these people like the human beings they are and help them, and stop the criminals that got them hooked and ruined their lives instead.

And none of these ideas are even unpopular. You're just reading some weird right-wing news sources.

And who cares about age? Health is what matters, and only Biden's health is even remotely questioned, but I'd bet even he'd make it to his second term. Look at Jimmy Carter, he's fucking 92 and still building houses for the poor! After surviving fucking brain cancer! These guys come from pretty well off backgrounds and can afford the lifestyles needed to live long and the education to know how to live them. They don't die that easily. Even if he did, a VP that becomes president is still an incumbent.