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UPDATE:

Mueller did not find Trump campaign conspired with Russia, attorney general says


Special counsel Robert Mueller found that neither Donald Trump nor any of his aides colluded with Russia during the 2016 election, according to letter delivered to Congress on Sunday by the US attorney general.


The letter from William Barr also revealed Mueller was unable to draw a conclusion “one way or the other” on whether Trump or anyone in the White House obstructed justice during the investigation.

Barr quoted directly from Mueller’s report which states, with regards to obstruction: “While this report does not conclude that the president committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.”

Mueller has filed no further indictments following an almost two year-long investigation that has seen some of Trump’s closest advisers criminally prosecuted and convicted.

As Mueller was unable to draw a conclusion on whether Trump obstructed justice, it was left to Barr and deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein, both appointed by Trump, to decide not to pursue charges.

Barr described the evidence for obstruction as “not sufficient to establish that the president committed an obstruction-of-justice offense”. Furthermore, Barr insisted in his letter the decision not to prosecute was not made based on any limitations related to the indictment of a sitting president.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/mar/24/mueller-report-donald-trump-barr-congress-russia?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

Original OP:

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Is anyone surprised? oh yeah, non. Russiangate is the miniature WMD lie. 

In the end, Trump gets to stay in office and gets a pass on all the actual corruption. Dems get to look like they are in opposition. Meanwhile its business as usual. War industry remains the US #1 product at home and abroad.

 

Edit: OP Title has been changed for more transparency. 

 

Last edited by LurkerJ - on 24 March 2019

Although the FBI seems to have found a ton of evidence, and it has led to several arrests from those in Trump's posse.



I describe myself as a little dose of toxic masculinity.

No direct evidence found.....

But what are the chances of finding a document, that has trumps name + putins name on it, and speaks of plans to commit treason?
Only a mental midget would write such things down.

 

 

"After two years and 200 interviews, the Senate Intelligence Committee is approaching the end of its investigation into the 2016 election, having uncovered no direct evidence of a conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russia, according to both Democrats and Republicans on the committee.

But investigators disagree along party lines when it comes to the implications of a pattern of contacts they have documented between Trump associates and Russians — contacts that occurred before, during and after Russian intelligence operatives were seeking to help Donald Trump by leaking hacked Democratic emails and attacking his opponent, Hillary Clinton, on social media."  - Ken Dilanian NBCnews

 

"We were never going to find a contract signed in blood saying, 'Hey Vlad, we're going to collude,'" one Democratic aide said.

 

The more important investigation is from the Special Counsel, with Mueller.
Senate wasn't going to turn up anything either way imo.

They did some interviews? so what, trump people just lied to them.
Wait for mueller to catch them in the lies.

Last edited by JRPGfan - on 16 February 2019

Must say i am getting tired of all the hoaxes, all the desperation to frame Trump and Trump-supporters as evil people



AKA not the investigation anyone actually cared about.

Neat.



sundin13 said:
AKA not the investigation anyone actually cared about.

Neat.

^ this.

Senate can only uncover things by haveing people speak the truth under oath.
Doesnt really work to interview people if they just lie to you.

Mueller investigation is the one that matters, where every leaf is getting turned over, catching people in their lies ect.

 

 

Prosecutors say they have Roger Stone's WikiLeaks communications

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR91Mu0KICk

^ Roger Stone is going to spend 20-25 years in prison..... because there was no collusion between trump - russia.

 

Paul Manafort Hid Russian Intel-Tied Contacts, Faces Decades Of Prison

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYQn79eBAxQ

^ Trump knows "all" the best people, and only hires the best.

Last edited by JRPGfan - on 16 February 2019

Funny now "no direct evidence of a conspiracy..." is being pitched as "no evidence of collusion".

I note that the statement allows for indirect evidence of conspiracy, as well as direct or indirect evidence for any number of other crimes.

I also note that indirect evidence is often admissible in court.
I also note that the Senate investigation is not the Mueller investigation.
I also note that the Senate investigation's findings, whatever they may be, are likely to be turned over to the Mueller investigation.
I also note that the Mueller investigation is not limited to conspiracy/collusion, as evidenced by the 40 indictments and 9 guilty pleas/verdicts attained thus far.

In conclusion, the Senate investigation has not exonerated Beloved Leader in the slightest, and its findings may wind up as evidence against Beloved Leader and/or his collaborators in the broader investigation that actually matters.



melbye said:
Must say i am getting tired of all the hoaxes, all the desperation to frame Trump and Trump-supporters as evil people

Trump is not an evil person? News to me... 



Oh..the senate...cool.



Hysteria? Was there a sale on hyperbole today?