Sorry :D

Well, if those are true, I doubt XB2 is going to be much more powerful than the PS5, if not at all.

Agreed. Especially since devs are going to want to move on the powerful HW (~12 Tflops), even more so 1-2 years into the gen, MS will be trying to force devs to support a "last gen" box if they want to develop on the XB2.

Don't tell..

I have started on Atari, but as little kid was already playing Genesis and SNES (plus phantom system, NES clone). I had tried those first tries on CD console and was good but nothing special.

One day at a friends house I tried Tekken on PS1 and was surprised.

Later I played RE on Saturn.

And one day when I was on the verge of turning 15 I bought my PS and had GT and FF IX on it. No other game have ever impressed me like FF IX before or after, that opening cutscene was unimaginable for me considering on the prior week I was playing some Genesis game.

Actually no. Look properly. What really determines the base console is the CPU. 

And both CPUs are the same.

What you are looking at is literally a 4k console and a 1080p console designed to run the same games with the only difference being resolution and texture quality. But no chance they are putting 1TB NVMe drives in there... SSDs yes, Mo2 based sata SSDs yes...... but not NVMe.

I have said this too..... its f my opinion that people are mixing up this whole two skus thing from MS. They are lookin at it as one being more powerful and the the other being less powerful than the PS5.

I however believe its more like a 4k sku ad a 1080p sku. And both of them will have a 4k sku that is pretty much identical with regards to power and price. Only difference is that MS will also have a cheaper 1080p console that sony may not release.

What exactly does this mean?

If that turns out to be the case, I don't see the XB2 doing very well, especially if the PS5 actually turns out to be more powerful at the same $399.  Even if the "1080p" box is $100 cheaper, there's going to a larger difference between the games than just resolution.  People are going to want that real jump in their next gen HW, not a console that would be basically a XBO X with a better CPU.  I also doubt that many devs are going to be happy about having to develop for an underpowered console, when they are going to want to move on from last gen.

Then, again, maybe MS is preparing for that to be a possible outcome.  Hence the 3rd party publishing on Nintendo that has been rumored.

Bit low-balling there though, right? I mean... Jaguar is pretty garbage.

Zen should offer an easy 8-10x increase.

Or maybe frame reconstruction will be retained and the extra performance will be sunk into improving fidelity.

Lockhart looks so uninspiring.
Would rather they ditched the NVMe drive and sunk it into more GPU grunt.

Anaconda is what I expected, sans SSD.

Still... Grain of salt should be taken with this Rumor either way.

I personally don't see the point of a 1080P SKU. Just super sample the lot.

Not really. As lng as the CPU is the same, it has a decent amunt of RAM (12GB is decent) and the gal is to run the ames at 1080p.... a 4TF GPU is more than enugh for that. And for the peple that dont mind playin their games at 1080p they will be just fine with it. 

And I have said this here befre, ppl haven' even seen what a PS4pr or XB1X can really do if paired with a better CPU r if games were made frm the round up for them. Lckhart bein a 1080p bx makes perfect sense and is prbably the smartest thin MS can do. It allows them cme in at a lower base price while bein able to play the same next gen ames but just at lower reslutins and a slew of toned down assets. Will still like a generation better than what we have today though. 

I even believe sony shuld adopt the same strategy. Let those that want next gen at 1080p pony up $399 and those that want 4k pay $499. In about two years after all the early adopters (aka people least influenced by price) have jumped n they can drop prices by $100 cross the skus. 

nce the only difference between skus was HDD size, then it became basic and premium. Now it wuld be 4k and 1080p.

All listed prices are estimted in 2020 OEM pricing.

• 2.5" SATA 3 HDD = ~150MB/s @ $25/1TB
• 2.5" SATA 3 SSD = ~500MB/s @ $50/1TB
• M.2 SATA 3 SSD = ~500MB/s @ $50/1TB
• M.2 NVMe SSD = ~2000MB/s @ $90/1TB

It actually makes a lot of sense. I mean we have $2000 gaming laptops that ship with 1080p screens. We also have the cheaper 1080p consoles outselling the 4k versions by like 4:1. The simple truth is that even though 4K is increasingly popular a majority of the console user base simply wouldn't care. They would buy the 1080p version over the 4k one.