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Which would you prefer if pushed.

HDR. 22 61.11%
 
Ray tracing. 7 19.44%
 
Neither/other in comments. 7 19.44%
 
Total:36
Kerotan said:
Cerebralbore101 said:
Forget about 4K or HDR. A $2000 OLED screen puts everything else to shame. Normally when pixels are lit up, part of their light bleeds into the next pixel. This makes colors a bit off from real life, and faded. This is especially true for night scenes because a bright pixel that is part of a light, will bleed over into a black pixel that is part of the night sky. OLED gets rid of this so blacks look blacker, contrast is vastly improved, and everything looks more defined. Hopefully in about 4 or 5 years OLED TVs will drop in price to around $700 for a 55 inch model.

Last years top end 55" 4k OLED sets are on sale now and can be got for around $1300. There is no doubt prices are coming down. Mass production is ramping up. A laptop screen was recently announced and LG sales forecasts expect a big increase in sales again this year. Next year they will switch manufacturing of the panels to high end sets and apparently that will reduce costs further. 

Cerebralbore101 said:

Yeah, but for the longest time a good 4K monitor at 32 inches would cost something like $700, (while a good 4K TV at 55 inches could be had for $300) it was only recently that a good 4K 32 inch monitor was priced at $300 to $400. So I imagine those 32 inch OLED monitors with good response time, and hertz will take forever to come down in price. 

But yeah, those will blow everything away. They'll make 1080p look like 480 or less. 

A 4k TV that costs $400 will look like dogshit compared to one that costs $1300-2000+.

For 1300 and up I would expect an OLED screen. But 1300 is way too much to spend on a TV. 



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Cerebralbore101 said:
Kerotan said:

Last years top end 55" 4k OLED sets are on sale now and can be got for around $1300. There is no doubt prices are coming down. Mass production is ramping up. A laptop screen was recently announced and LG sales forecasts expect a big increase in sales again this year. Next year they will switch manufacturing of the panels to high end sets and apparently that will reduce costs further. 

A 4k TV that costs $400 will look like dogshit compared to one that costs $1300-2000+.

For 1300 and up I would expect an OLED screen. But 1300 is way too much to spend on a TV. 

I disagree if like me you spend about 20% of your year watching the TV and mainly for games. I was single in 2008 and lived by myself in 2014 so paid the €800 and €1200 for the TV myself. But I'm now living with my partner and she agreed to go 50/50 on our next TV. So happy days my budget just increased! 



I really dont see a vast improvment unless its side by side.

All of these latest upgrades just seem minor to me and you kinda forget about it while just playing. Frankly, my only concern is avoiding TVs that have an objectively bad picture, ghosting, etc.



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Cerebralbore101 said:
Kerotan said:

Last years top end 55" 4k OLED sets are on sale now and can be got for around $1300. There is no doubt prices are coming down. Mass production is ramping up. A laptop screen was recently announced and LG sales forecasts expect a big increase in sales again this year. Next year they will switch manufacturing of the panels to high end sets and apparently that will reduce costs further. 

A 4k TV that costs $400 will look like dogshit compared to one that costs $1300-2000+.

For 1300 and up I would expect an OLED screen. But 1300 is way too much to spend on a TV. 

Lol I spend 4200 on a 52" 1080p LCD in 2006. 4K tvs went down in price fast. However I'm still using that tv, while the 4K HDR tv will be outdated when hdmi 2.1 arrives...



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CGI-Quality said:

Anything OLED will take a long time to down in price. ;P

For me, that's why an IPS/HDR monitor (4 or 8K) makes for such a comparable alternative. Only an OLED display can top it.

 Unfortunately OLED has burn in and image retention issues which make them unsuitable for pc monitors.

The current versions, yep. That's one of the reasons it hasn't happened yet. 



                                                                                                                                            

HDR is the biggest leap in TV tech in years. It is the only reason I upgraded to the Z9D. I had looked at 4K TV sets for years, but nothing had a dramatic enough leap in PQ to justify an upgrade until HDR.

I have to say that OLED is absolutely not the way to go for HDR though. Full Array Locally Dimmed LEDs like Sony's Z9 series, or Samsung's QLEDs are where you really see the benefits of HDR. The next massive leap will be with Sony CLEDIS and Samsung MicroLED. This tech will give you the benefits of per pixel illumination like OLED has, while also offering full 10K Nits peak brightness, and no fear of burn in.

If you are in the market purely for an HDR TV right now, the only sets I would look at are Sony's Z9 Series or Samsung's QLEDs. Non of the other TVs deliver benefits of HDR.

OLED has it's own benefits, but HDR is not the highlight of OLED technology.



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So i have a 55 inch samsung MU6279  apperently it has Numerous image enhancement systems such as UHD Dimming, Wide Color Enhancer, PurColor and 1400Hz PQI and comes equipped with a current 8-bit VA panel and Edge LED backlight.  Overall, the Samsung UE55ME6279 impresses with its above-average image quality.  That is some parts of a review i copied and pasted means nothing to maybe you guys can shed some light on it and maybe help me out to how i shoild have the tv set up ( contast,sharpness etc)

Heres the link https://www.produkttest24.com/im-test-der-samsung-ue55mu6279-ultra-hd-curved-fernseher/.



Cerebralbore101 said:

Yeah, but for the longest time a good 4K monitor at 32 inches would cost something like $700, (while a good 4K TV at 55 inches could be had for $300)

I fixed that for you.



Nogamez said:

So i have a 55 inch samsung MU6279  apperently it has Numerous image enhancement systems such as UHD Dimming, Wide Color Enhancer, PurColor and 1400Hz PQI and comes equipped with a current 8-bit VA panel and Edge LED backlight.  Overall, the Samsung UE55ME6279 impresses with its above-average image quality.  That is some parts of a review i copied and pasted means nothing to maybe you guys can shed some light on it and maybe help me out to how i shoild have the tv set up ( contast,sharpness etc)

Heres the link https://www.produkttest24.com/im-test-der-samsung-ue55mu6279-ultra-hd-curved-fernseher/.

If you want the benefits of wide color you need a 10 bit panel. Edge lit is also not as good as local dimming.

Here are the specs for that tv
https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/cb15c6d
(6279 is the German version)

The important things for a good HDR tv
Panel bit depth: 8 bits. 10 bits is much better, 4K HDR is a 10 bit signal, wide color is 10 bit.
DCI P3: 90% coverage. That is not bad, yet the standard for 4K HDR is 96% or higher.
Brightness 350 cd/m2, better known as nits. 350 nits is low for HDR, 1000 is more like it.
Static contrast: 5300:1 That is not bad without local dimming.
Input lag: 20ms, good enough.

I'm sure this tv looks amazing next to an older 1080p tv, but don't expect too much from HDR and wide color.