NSW: 4.1 M
PS4: 1.2M
Current YTD
Switch 3.968.150
PS4 1.007.491
Based on the sales trajectory, Nintendo Switch is likely to end up at 4.4m-4.6m range for 2019 while PS4 is around ~1.1
Sony really drops the ball this year in Japan with a late promotion deal and discount. It should've already got a permanent price cut at this point.
Nice necrobump! It's always fun to see how predictions pan out.
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Bofferbrauer2 said: Switch: 4.35M PS4: 1.35M I'm pretty sure the Switch'es baseline will be several K above last year, pretty much not dropping below 40K and half the time selling above 50K, with Pokemon giving a similar boost to holiday sales (less high, but spread over more weeks) as did Smash. For the PS4, I fear the baseline will drop further and a steep drop incoming 1-2 weeks after KH3 release. PS4 won't get nearly the same boost with KH3 as it got last year with MHW and an even lower baseline means the lines spread out more and more. |
Was pretty much spot on with the Switch, but I overestimated the PS4 quite a bit - and yet mine was one of the lower ones...
The Nintendo eShop rating Thread: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=237454 List as Google Doc: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aW2hXQT1TheElVS7z-F3pP-7nbqdrDqWNTxl6JoJWBY/edit?usp=sharing
The Steam/GOG key gifting thread: https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/242024/the-steamgog-key-gifting-thread/1/
Free Pc Games thread: https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/248138/free-pc-games/1/
RolStoppable said: Here's the summary for this thread. Predictions that were longer than two decimals were mathematically rounded to two. For people who gave ranges, the middle of the range was fed into the average. For people who gave multiple predictions based on certain conditions being fulfilled, the predictions that had more of the listed conditions fulfilled were used. Empty cells mean that the predictor in question omitted one of the two consoles.
The bolded numbers at the bottom are the averages, so 4.27m for Switch and 1.43m for the PS4. The final tallies in a couple of weeks will see the average Switch prediction being too low by only a few percent while the margin of error for the PS4 will almost certainly exceed 25%. Only one PS4 prediction in this thread will have been lower than the actual result, so too much optimism across the board. EDIT: Added another column for the ratio by which Switch was predicted to outsell the PS4 (a 3.03:1 ratio on average). |
Interesting that we as a group both underestimated the Switch and overestimated the PS4. This is actually evidence for something I've been wondering for several weeks now. Is the Switch eating into the tail end of PS4 sales? It looks like it is.
People often observe that when a successor is released it causes sales of the previous console to decrease. Well in Japan, Switch is seen as the successor to the PS4. It's the must have system in Japan for the next several years. It can function as a home console and has a lot of Japanese oriented games. Nintendo first party, especially, appeals more to Japanese gamers than Sony first party does. And the two systems are about the same price. Why wouldn't a Japanese gamer just get a Switch instead? From what I can tell, that is exactly what they are doing.
curl-6 bet me that PS5 + X|S sales would reach 56m before year end 2023 and he was right.
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Switch Will Be #1 All Time
Zelda Will Outsell Mario (Achieved)
How Much Will MH Rise sell?
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RolStoppable said:
Partly right, partly wrong. Switch does have a negative effect on PS4 sales, but it's not because Switch is seen as the successor to the PS4. If we look at multiple generations, we can see that the PS handheld has cut into PS home console sales because many PS2 developers moved on to the PSP, so the PS3 took a significant hit at the level below AAA software. The progression of gamers here is PSP to PSV/3DS to Switch, rather than PSP to PSV to PS4 after Sony's exit from the handheld market. It's the Vita owners who have to go somewhere and they aren't sticking with the PS brand, so the PS4 can't benefit. Neither will the PS5. Read over your second paragraph again because it's contradictory. You say that Switch is seen as successor to the PS4 and then pose the question why not get a Switch instead. The latter part implies that such gamers do not own a PS4 yet, so talking about a perceived successor doesn't make sense. |
I'm saying that conventional wisdom suggests that some people will not buy a PS4 when the PS5 releases. They will just skip the PS4 and go onto the next gen console instead. In this case though, the Switch is the next gen console. So in Japan they will skip the PS4 and just buy the Switch instead. This is what I mean by "why not just get a Switch instead?"
curl-6 bet me that PS5 + X|S sales would reach 56m before year end 2023 and he was right.
My Bet With curl-6
My Threads:
Master Thread, Game of the Year/Decade
Switch Will Be #1 All Time
Zelda Will Outsell Mario (Achieved)
How Much Will MH Rise sell?
My Bet With Metallox