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Jaicee said:
JRPGfan said:

“Low income groups will be disproportionately affected by any price rises in food and fuel.” - from the report.

The poor, will be worst off from brexit.

Not just in the short run either, as Brexit proponents insist. The argument I keep hearing from supporters of a no-deal Brexit is that better, replacement trade deals will eventually, maybe three or four years down the road, be struck with the United States and China and everything will come rushing back to better than before, YaY, everyone wins!

First of all, people don't eat in the long run.

Secondly, the premise is total bullshit. The simple, obvious, self-evident fact of the matter is that leaving the EU will leave the UK with far LESS bargaining power, not more. Have you seen the sorts of terms that the Trump Administration and the Chinese government have been throwing around?? The bottom line is that the U.S. and China want a clear and distinct advantage in any such future trading relationship and an isolated country in a state of economic depression would be in no position to negotiate reasonable, equitable, reciprocal terms. The end result of this process is one wherein American and Chinese companies swoop in and take over much of the British economy and treat the British working class (including the specifically English one that voted for Brexit) significantly worse than they are currently being treated. As in fewer unions to protect their economic rights, fewer environmental regulations to protect their health and well-being, etc. That's the great and awesome eventuality that this policy offers unto the United Kingdom's working population.

at bolded: that gave me a laugh when I heard it first a couple years ago. Now I can only shake my head in disbelief that anybody fell for it...

Yeah, as if the UK had the same negotiating power as the EU does. The one Trump sended to the UK should have been a wake-up call on that front: All take and no give and all, just demands and nothing in return. The EU was able to negotiate on equal terms due to their size and might, but the UK lost that power a long time ago, when it lost it's colonies. Still living in the past is becoming the UK's downfall. Maybe they'll wake up when Scotland and Northern Ireland leave the Union - but for hardcore Brexiteers, I have my doubts.



Things continue to go spectacularly well for UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson. After mocking his Labour Party rival Jeremy Corbyn as a "chicken" for weeks and recently comparing himself to the Incredible Hulk, Mr. Johnson ducked out of his planned press conference with the EU negotiator...for fear of being booed! You can't make this shit up.

Like I said, age of the man-child.

#neverthelesshepersis...whoops!

Last edited by Jaicee - on 17 September 2019

Jaicee said:

Things continue to go spectacularly well for UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson. After mocking his Labour Party rival Jeremy Corbyn as a "chicken" for weeks and recently comparing himself to the Incredible Hulk, Mr. Johnson ducked out of his planned press conference with the EU negotiator...for fear of being booed! You can't make this shit up.

Like I said, age of the man-child.

#neverthelesshepersis...whoops!

Yeah, he had a bad day in my home country. And I love how our Premier Minister Xavier Bettel pointed at the empty podium next to his every time he was talking about him. Or, like the Luxembourgish News said: The day the uncredible Hulk took to his heels (Yeah, we can have our news in multiple languages). Or as they say in Luxembourg:

Yesterday: The Incredible Hulk. Today: The Invisible Man.

Or if you like Monty Python: 

Brave Sir Boris ran away.
("No!")
Bravely ran away away.
("I didn't!")
When danger reared its ugly head,
He bravely turned his tail and fled.
("I never!")
Yes, brave Sir Boris turned about
And gallantly he chickened out.
("You're lying!")
Swiftly taking to his feet,
He beat a very brave retreat.
Bravest of the brave, Sir Boris!

But at this rate he gets what he wants: To leave without a deal, even if he would break a law by doing so. But by the time he would be judged for it, the damage is done already.

Last edited by Bofferbrauer2 - on 17 September 2019

Bofferbrauer2 said:
Jaicee said:

Things continue to go spectacularly well for UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson. After mocking his Labour Party rival Jeremy Corbyn as a "chicken" for weeks and recently comparing himself to the Incredible Hulk, Mr. Johnson ducked out of his planned press conference with the EU negotiator...for fear of being booed! You can't make this shit up.

Like I said, age of the man-child.

#neverthelesshepersis...whoops!

Yeah, he had a bad day in my home country. And I love how our Premier Minister Xavier Bettel pointed at the empty podium next to his every time he was talking about him. Or, like the Luxembourgish News said: The day the uncredible Hulk took to his heels (Yeah, we can have our news in multiple languages). Or as they say in Luxembourg:

Yesterday: The Incredible Hulk. Today: The Invisible Man.

Or if you like Monty Python: 

Brave Sir Boris ran away.
("No!")
Bravely ran away away.
("I didn't!")
When danger reared its ugly head,
He bravely turned his tail and fled.
("I never!")
Yes, brave Sir Boris turned about
And gallantly he chickened out.
("You're lying!")
Swiftly taking to his feet,
He beat a very brave retreat.
Bravest of the brave, Sir Boris!

But at this rate he gets what he wants: To leave without a deal, even if he would break a law by doing so. But by the time he would be judged for it, the damage is done already.

Personally, the best phrase I saw was "The Invisible Sulk".

He really is embarrassingly pathetic.



Scoobes said:

Personally, the best phrase I saw was "The Invisible Sulk".

He really is embarrassingly pathetic.

Another one I found was "The Incredible Hulk punched out by Ant-Man" (referring to the tiny size of Luxembourg).

Really, reporters had a field day with him in Luxembourg



Total EU spending in Luxembourg: € 1.827 billion
Total Luxembourg contribution to the EU budget: € 0.307 billion

I can understand why those protesters are so angry at losing one of the biggest net contributors.



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Pyro as Bill said:
Total EU spending in Luxembourg: € 1.827 billion
Total Luxembourg contribution to the EU budget: € 0.307 billion

I can understand why those protesters are so angry at losing one of the biggest net contributors.

Just FYI, those were British nationals living in Luxembourg, not Luxembourgers. There are a couple thousand Brits living in Luxembourg, and they are overwhelmingly against Brexit.

Also, expenditures in Luxembourg are so high because of all the European Institutions there (the European Court of Justice, the Secretariat of the Assembly, the European Investment Bank and the Court of Auditors), which cost 1.6334 billion Euro in 2018. If you were to count those out, then Luxembourg would also be a net contributor since it depends on the GDP per capita as to whom spends more and whom gets more. But Luxembourg is so small that the costs of running the Institutions outweights what Luxembourg has to spend.

Also, due to the rebate the UK already had, they were spending less than half of what Germany does for the EU. UK even contributes less than Italy despite that country being much poorer than the UK. That's a full 5 billion that the other countries have to pay more already due to the rebate.



Jaicee said:

Things continue to go spectacularly well for UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson. After mocking his Labour Party rival Jeremy Corbyn as a "chicken" for weeks and recently comparing himself to the Incredible Hulk, Mr. Johnson ducked out of his planned press conference with the EU negotiator...for fear of being booed! You can't make this shit up.

Like I said, age of the man-child.

#neverthelesshepersis...whoops!

I'm surprised he doesn't know some easy speaker (or teacher) tricks, actually there is a very effective way to make the majority of polite listeners shut up a few that are booing, making other noises or in any way disturbing, one just need to speak lower and lower until those interested can't hear anymore, they'll do the job and the booers will cut a sorry figure (they'd do it anyway if they don't allow someone else to speak, but this way they'll clearly realise it).
For the trick to work, the booers must be a minority and the speaker must remain calm and never look angry, the gentler and calmer he or she'll remain, the harder booers will unwillingly hit themselves.



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Brexit chaos takes it first big victime. Thomas Cook went bankrupt.

https://simpleflying.com/thomas-cook-goes-bankrupt/



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Peh said:
Brexit chaos takes it first big victime. Thomas Cook went bankrupt.

https://simpleflying.com/thomas-cook-goes-bankrupt/

I think brexit at most, just caused investors to rethink pooring funding into a rescue plan.

Though what really caused it was just tough competition in the travel space.
There goes supposedly one of the oldest "travel company's" in the world, its been around for 178+ years.