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Forums - Sales Discussion - Japan Sales Week 49 Media Create/Famitsu/Dengeki - December 3-9, 2018

PAOerfulone said:
Just out of curiousity, what were the two games bundled with the discounted PS4?

 You can choose any 2 from;



Shadow1980 said:
Green098 said:

Looks like PS4's 5,000 yen price cut and two free games managed to boost sales as expected, but not enough to bring it up from this time last year.

Makes sense. I've stated on multiple occasions in recent weeks that at this late of a stage in a console's life, price cuts have greatly reduced efficacy. We might see modest, relatively short-term boosts, but no meaningful growth.

The only reason it's down on last year is because it had the monster Hunter Pro bundle. The slim is up on last year. Price cuts will have an affect. There's a reason sales were slow the last few months. It needed a price cut badly. Hopefully a permanent one next spring. 



Predictions: (actual)

Week 47: 140k (108k)

Week 48: 120k (120k)

Week 49: 310k (281k)

Week 50: 180k

Week 51: 290k

Week 52: 140k

Total: 1.18m

I didn't do too bad this week, a little bit of an overestimate. That's alright though because I think next week or week 52 might be a bit of an underestimate.



Sale and free games seem to help PS4 this week,but not enough to touch Smash/Switch. That pacman once again. MK8 getting close to 2m in Japan, should do it by next year



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Shadow1980 said:
Kerotan said:

The only reason it's down on last year is because it had the monster Hunter Pro bundle. The slim is up on last year. Price cuts will have an affect. There's a reason sales were slow the last few months. It needed a price cut badly. Hopefully a permanent one next spring. 

Wasn't the Monster Hunter bundle in January when the game came out?

In the West it did but in Japan it was December.



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Shadow1980 said:
zorg1000 said:

In the West it did but in Japan it was December.

That's weird. Releasing the LE console over a month before the game. I didn't even know they did that for MHW.

Nintendo just did the same thing for Smash.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

dude you are just wrong, look at past consoles DS, and Wii who had mario kart at 20 to 40 million copies sold......other 3rd party games sold a couple millions, some reach 5 million or more, but regardless no games compete with Nintendo sales if Nintendo have the same amount of hardware sold. Meaning mario party on wii sold 32 million before it got bundle on a 100 million system, while grand theft reach 30 million from on 160 million consoles from xbox and sony hardware sales together. Nintendo can compete with anyone as long as there is enough hardware sales sold to compete.

 

There is no 3rd party on any console that can compete, so even with nintendo taking up the chart do not mean there is no money for 3rd party, because even with their high sales on ds and Wii the 1 million to 10 million games 3rd party sold stlll gave them a lot of money and like someone wrote before, game budgets on Nintendo system are way less than on ps4, so if ps4 need to sell 3 million to break even, some 3rd party developers admit on ds and wii they only needed to sell 50k to 200k to break even which majority of them did, and I am talking about big games, little games needed way less sales. so Carnival games that came out on Wii that just came out for Switch is a game that barely need to sell to make profits.

retail only nintendo system already show you people buy more on it, fifa last year version outsold ps4 version.........dragon quest 11 on 3ds out sold ps4 in retail.......Nintendo games have great legs, when fifa drop last year sony out sold it first week, it was not until december with its legs that switch over take

 

Sony games dont have legs so once a 3rd party move off the chart its gone for good look at monster hunter world it lasted from end of january to April when it stop showing on the chart thats the longest a ps4 game ever went



xMetroid said:
Amazing debut for smash, definitely not a niche title anymore (probably since smash 4, even brawl was unknown by so many).
Maybe 5 million debut WW is possible. Switch looking at crazy December sales once again.

I'd say only the N64 could be considered niche. Melee is the GameCube's highest selling title over Mario Kart Double Dash and Mario Sunshine. Brawl is standing strong at 12m units sold. In terms of sale power it's only outdone by Mario Kart and 2D Mario.



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Shadow1980 said:
zorg1000 said:

In the West it did but in Japan it was December.

That's weird. Releasing the LE console over a month before the game. I didn't even know they did that for MHW.

It happens in Japan. DQ11 and FFXV had it too. 



Megiddo said:
1.8 million would require 100k average the last 3 weeks. I don't think that's doable. 1.7 million would be ~67k average and is likely the ceiling. That would leave the PS4 around flat YoY wouldn't it?

I think I was predicting 1.7M-1.8M in a previous thread, so I think it will definitely be on the lower end.  And last year PS4 did 1.79M, so 1.7M would only be ~5% down YOY.

Edit: And just for reference, the Switch did 3.31M last year.  Looks like it will be the reverse and be up by ~5%. 

Last edited by thismeintiel - on 12 December 2018