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Say somehow Nintendo is capable of producing  next gen with a Switch Pro that produces the following environment for the console:

  • It is part of the Switch family like the 2ds is part of the 3ds family.  Sales would still go under the switch family.
  • It will play switch games like Smash brothers, BOTW, SMO, basically any other switch game.  Of course no upgrade, but possible Pro versions of games older switch games like MKdeluxe Pro(Yeah I know it's redundant).
  • It will also play all 3rd party games without the downgrade of graphical fidelity.  You know, COD, Battlefield, NBA2k2020, Red Dead 3, etc.
  • Older Switch models will strictly be playing Switch made games.  
  • It's gonna cost you $400+ because it's pro.
I'm not saying this is what's going to happen, but I wonder if it might just be enticing enough for people get on board.   There's the whole baggage of disenfranchising casual switch owners, having to decide whether Nintendo would make the next LOZ on the next gen engine or stick with the switch, confusing the market if it's decided there's a higher quality version of the same game.  There's just so much division and anarchy with such a console.  But despite all this havoc I have one question for you: would you be down?


Is this supposed to be a clone of Soundwave's idea or something different ?



fatslob-:O said:
Is this supposed to be a clone of Soundwave's idea or something different ?

You assume I know what soundwaves is along with trying to figure what it is.

But soundwave aside, this is Nintendo doing this.  If Nintendo does it, it's different by leagues.  So would you be down?



Ouroboros24 said:

You assume I know what soundwaves is along with trying to figure what it is.

But soundwave aside, this is Nintendo doing this.  If Nintendo does it, it's different by leagues.  So would you be down?

Can you elaborate more on your first post ? 

Like what exactly is this Switch "Pro" supposed to be ? Is it an upgraded Switch SKU or is it a next gen successor to the Switch and in either of the cases is it possible for the new potential SKU to play next gen home console games from the PS5/XB2 ? 

What do you mean by "Pro" versions of older Switch games ? Without the "downgrade of graphical fidelity" and are you specifically talking about possible next gen games like you list out ? 



I would be down with it, but I don't think it would work with most core gamers, and the casual audience. Core gamers would be pissed of that the first model buyers are getting screwed over (their eyes, not mine). While the casual market would be completely confused as to what works where (WiiU sitation).

I think they have to do a Switch Pro/+ or whatever, but it should still be tied to the Switch 1. Bring it out next year, and let it ride out 2 or 3 years.

Then I think would be the time to bring out a Switch 2, that is capable of bringing PS5/XB4 level 3rd party titles to the system. With Solid State Batteries and Solid State Storage both dramatically shifting the possabilities in Mobile device over the next few years, I think that taking advantage of them with a Switch 2 is the best course of action. With it being Switch '2', it is very easy to understand that all Switch Games work on Switch 2, but Switch 2 games don't work on Switch 1.



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Will that be portable? No way we will get an almost ps5 level portable console in the nexts 5 years (being optimistic), neither for 1000+$.
So, I suppose it would be a home console only, right? a dock like slot to you charge and communicate with your old switch, plays exclusively only some third party games, and streams to your old switch. could include vr too. Could be interesting the concept, but wouldn't sell much. I doubt the developers would like to make games for such a small base.



fatslob-:O said:
Ouroboros24 said:

You assume I know what soundwaves is along with trying to figure what it is.

But soundwave aside, this is Nintendo doing this.  If Nintendo does it, it's different by leagues.  So would you be down?

Can you elaborate more on your first post ? 

Like what exactly is this Switch "Pro" supposed to be ? Is it an upgraded Switch SKU or is it a next gen successor to the Switch and in either of the cases is it possible for the new potential SKU to play next gen home console games from the PS5/XB2 ? 

What do you mean by "Pro" versions of older Switch games ? Without the "downgrade of graphical fidelity" and are you specifically talking about possible next gen games like you list out ? 

Let's be real, you don't go into every single thread and dissect every specific thing that's said there.  Are you to tell me you don't have a basic understanding of what's been written? 

Just for instance let me give you and example.  My response to it would be:

I like the idea, yeah there's a lot of problems with something like this, but it's a fun idea without any real expectations from both fans and Nintendo.   I think it still will not replace the other consoles because of first party or even just brand recognition. 

There, something like that.  Why does everything have to be the reason for life?

Bro, sorry, it's like 1am in the morning and I can't go to sleep.  Just wanted a discussion, a small little thing,  hey that's cool, or not cool.  Not some arguement. 



jonathanalis said:
Will that be portable? No way we will get an almost ps5 level portable console in the nexts 5 years (being optimistic), neither for 1000+$.
So, I suppose it would be a home console only, right? a dock like slot to you charge and communicate with your old switch, plays exclusively only some third party games, and streams to your old switch. could include vr too. Could be interesting the concept, but wouldn't sell much. I doubt the developers would like to make games for such a small base.

Nevermind about possibility. I want to know with all the baggage, with all the difficulty, would you just throw away the idea, or would you face it and say here's my money. 



Ouroboros24 said:

Say somehow Nintendo is capable of producing  next gen with a Switch Pro that produces the following environment for the console:

  • It is part of the Switch family like the 2ds is part of the 3ds family.  Sales would still go under the switch family.
  • It will play switch games like Smash brothers, BOTW, SMO, basically any other switch game.  Of course no upgrade, but possible Pro versions of games older switch games like MKdeluxe Pro(Yeah I know it's redundant).
  • It will also play all 3rd party games without the downgrade of graphical fidelity.  You know, COD, Battlefield, NBA2k2020, Red Dead 3, etc.
  • Older Switch models will strictly be playing Switch made games.  
  • It's gonna cost you $400+ because it's pro.
I'm not saying this is what's going to happen, but I wonder if it might just be enticing enough for people get on board.   There's the whole baggage of disenfranchising casual switch owners, having to decide whether Nintendo would make the next LOZ on the next gen engine or stick with the switch, confusing the market if it's decided there's a higher quality version of the same game.  There's just so much division and anarchy with such a console.  But despite all this havoc I have one question for you: would you be down?

Its not currently possible to make a handheld Switch thats on the power level of a PS4slim.

The PS4 slim uses like ~80watts of power when gaming.

If you want a Switch thats able to do something like that, it would need to be the size of a laptop.



KBG29 said:
I would be down with it, but I don't think it would work with most core gamers, and the casual audience. Core gamers would be pissed of that the first model buyers are getting screwed over (their eyes, not mine). While the casual market would be completely confused as to what works where (WiiU sitation).

I think they have to do a Switch Pro/+ or whatever, but it should still be tied to the Switch 1. Bring it out next year, and let it ride out 2 or 3 years.

Then I think would be the time to bring out a Switch 2, that is capable of bringing PS5/XB4 level 3rd party titles to the system. With Solid State Batteries and Solid State Storage both dramatically shifting the possabilities in Mobile device over the next few years, I think that taking advantage of them with a Switch 2 is the best course of action. With it being Switch '2', it is very easy to understand that all Switch Games work on Switch 2, but Switch 2 games don't work on Switch 1.

SSD's are expensive..... look a the Switch it comes with 32GB of Flash storage (something tiny and really cheap).
Theres a reason the PS4 & XB1 dont ship with SSDs (or Solid state storage as you call it), its too expensive pr GB (and games keep getting bigger and bigger).

Solid State Batteries,....  the main point isnt that they store much more battery (its like 1.5x or 2x only), its just that they charge alot faster.
You would still need to carry around a MASSIVELY big switch (to house a big battery & cooling) if you wanted a device that be PS4 performance in handheld mode.

 

So basically you want this in a new Switch Pro:
1.  SSD (extremly expensive storage solution)
2. Faster Chargeing batteries

That seems possible to me, if your going to make a more expensive Switch model, but it ll probably not be any faster just because you add those things in.

Last edited by JRPGfan - on 08 December 2018