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Acevil said:
Barkley said:
Haven't seen it yet, but it's box office performance has surprised me. Almost as big as the last Spiderman film.

$823m.... Spiderman Homecoming only did $880m xD.

When China really loves a movie no matter how awful it maybe. They really love a movie. 

Well China is crazy about superhero movies,but is also crazy about monster movies. Venom is pretty much a sum of these two so is not a shock it became a big hit over there. Ironic is that if it was rated R it probably wouldn't launch there and they would lose their biggest market.



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alternine said:
Baddman said:

proven wrong? ..its my opinion he doesn't work without spider man. Nowhere did I mention anything about other people. Saying this as a huge comic fan. If you can't handle that some didn't like it well you shouldn't have made a thread if you wanted an echo chamber.

I'm just stating a fact. A lot of people said what you did and admitted to being wrong after. 

there's nothing to admit tho I already saw the movie and didn't like it



alternine said:
KManX89 said:

Don't get TOO excited, it's gonna be PG-13.

Cletus Kasady, the guy who pushed his own grandma down the steps, drilled his mother's dog's brains out after trying to murder her by dropping a hairdryer in a bathtub, killed dozens of people during a long killing spree which included burning down an orphanage and then mutilates and rips people's guts out en masse just for fun after bonding with an out-of-control alien substance in a kid-friendly PG-13 movie, you can't make this shit up.

That's like making a PG-13 Nightmare on Elm Street movie. PG-13 Carnage is gonna be a joke. Oh and let's not forget a vampire who can't bite (Morbius) because, PG-13 rating. Man, Sony is really killing it with their comic book properties just like they did with SM3 and both ASM movies, right, right?

I saw it and I thought it was "just okay" BTW. It was a Transformers-like mess of a plot that fans ate up because, explosions.

Explosions? You mean the 1 at the end and nowhere else? Lol. In most fans eyes theyve proven that they can do Venom in an great light so we'll give them a chance with Carnage. You can hate on SM3 and the TASM's all you want but they were more Spiderman than MCU version has been. 

Right, can't wait to see Carnage stab push people and decapitate push people and maybe if we're lucky, we'll get to see a really gruesome scene of Carnage ripping someone in half and devouring them pushing someone.

Seriously, Carnage will not work with a PG-13 rating. That's like making a Wolverine movie where he doesn't use his claws or a Punisher movie where Frank Castle doesn't gun down and torture gangsters. They better release an R-rated director's cut on Blu-Ray because I won't pay to see this neutered Carnage in theaters, el oh el. Fucking read Maximum Carnage and tell me he belongs in a PG-13 movie. He doesn't.

Avi Arad should be fired for saying that shit. What a tool. It's clear he doesn't read the comics. It's clear he doesn't know how to properly tell a story, either, which is why he ruined every Spider-Man movie after SM2 with his meddling. No, a mass-murdering lunatic is NOT somebody we should feel for, fucking A. 

Oh, and "in most fans' eyes"? Is that why it has a 7.0 avg rating on IMDb (less than Spider-Man: Homecoming)? And it was more than just the airplane scene dude, also the motorcycle scene. And Venom literally walking through explosions throughout the film. 

Megiddo said:
KManX89 said:

Don't get TOO excited, it's gonna be PG-13.

Isn't that basically every comic book/superhero movie other than Deadpool?

And Punisher. And Blade. And Spawn. 

And there's a very specific reason why their films/shows have all been rated R. Spoiler: they're not for kids. They even say so on the cover of their comics: 

The 2005 Punisher game had to be toned down just so it wouldn’t get an AO by the ESRB. Some comic book characters need an R rating in order to justify the elements of said character, this being one of them (and Carnage). 

Last edited by KManX89 - on 30 November 2018

It's as good as almost all other Marvel movies. It's as bad as almost all other Marvel movies.



KManX89 said:
alternine said:

Explosions? You mean the 1 at the end and nowhere else? Lol. In most fans eyes theyve proven that they can do Venom in an great light so we'll give them a chance with Carnage. You can hate on SM3 and the TASM's all you want but they were more Spiderman than MCU version has been. 

Right, can't wait to see Carnage stab push people and decapitate push people and maybe if we're lucky, we'll get to see a really gruesome scene of Carnage ripping someone in half and devouring them pushing someone.

Seriously, Carnage will not work with a PG-13 rating. That's like making a Wolverine movie where he doesn't use his claws or a Punisher movie where Frank Castle doesn't gun down and torture gangsters. They better release an R-rated director's cut on Blu-Ray because I won't pay to see this neutered Carnage in theaters, el oh el. Fucking read Maximum Carnage and tell me he belongs in a PG-13 movie. He doesn't.

Avi Arad should be fired for saying that shit. What a tool. It's clear he doesn't read the comics. It's clear he doesn't know how to properly tell a story, either, which is why he ruined every Spider-Man movie after SM2 with his meddling. No, a mass-murdering lunatic is NOT somebody we should feel for, fucking A. 

Oh, and "in most fans' eyes"? Is that why it has a 7.0 avg rating on IMDb (less than Spider-Man: Homecoming)? And it was more than just the airplane scene dude, also the motorcycle scene. And Venom literally walking through explosions throughout the film. 

Megiddo said:

Isn't that basically every comic book/superhero movie other than Deadpool?

And Punisher. And Blade. And Spawn. 

And there's a very specific reason why their films/shows have all been rated R. Spoiler: they're not for kids. They even say so on the cover of their comics: 

The 2005 Punisher game had to be toned down just so it wouldn’t get an AO by the ESRB. Some comic book characters need an R rating in order to justify the elements of said character, this being one of them (and Carnage). 

Or a movie with Deadpool in it where "The Merc with the Mouth" has his mouth sewn shut.




Mandalore76 said:
KManX89 said:

Right, can't wait to see Carnage stab push people and decapitate push people and maybe if we're lucky, we'll get to see a really gruesome scene of Carnage ripping someone in half and devouring them pushing someone.

Seriously, Carnage will not work with a PG-13 rating. That's like making a Wolverine movie where he doesn't use his claws or a Punisher movie where Frank Castle doesn't gun down and torture gangsters. They better release an R-rated director's cut on Blu-Ray because I won't pay to see this neutered Carnage in theaters, el oh el. Fucking read Maximum Carnage and tell me he belongs in a PG-13 movie. He doesn't.

Avi Arad should be fired for saying that shit. What a tool. It's clear he doesn't read the comics. It's clear he doesn't know how to properly tell a story, either, which is why he ruined every Spider-Man movie after SM2 with his meddling. No, a mass-murdering lunatic is NOT somebody we should feel for, fucking A. 

Oh, and "in most fans' eyes"? Is that why it has a 7.0 avg rating on IMDb (less than Spider-Man: Homecoming)? And it was more than just the airplane scene dude, also the motorcycle scene. And Venom literally walking through explosions throughout the film. 

And Punisher. And Blade. And Spawn. 

And there's a very specific reason why their films/shows have all been rated R. Spoiler: they're not for kids. They even say so on the cover of their comics: 

The 2005 Punisher game had to be toned down just so it wouldn’t get an AO by the ESRB. Some comic book characters need an R rating in order to justify the elements of said character, this being one of them (and Carnage). 

Or a movie with Deadpool in it where "The Merc with the Mouth" has his mouth sewn shut.


AKA the version of Deadpool that nobody liked and was the most mocked thing in an already badly-maligned movie that was long considered to be the worst Fox superhero movie ever until the godawful Fantastic Four reboot came out.

And it was in a kid's friendly PG-13 movie to boot which Deadpool is not, so yeah, point proven.

No, I don't need over-the-top violence/gore/swearing to be entertained (Infinity War was amazing), but when it's a property that's widely known and loved for being tailored for adults, you can't kiddify it. Lots of people aren't happy about the PG-13 re-release of Deadpool 2, either and understandably so, but at least it doesn't take itself seriously as a watered-down, kiddified version of an adult-aimed character (it looks like a self-parody cut making fun of the fact that it's PG-13 using a Princess Bride-inspired framing device) like Sony plans to do with Carnage. 

Last edited by KManX89 - on 03 December 2018

It had a really shitty screenplay and characters - except maybe for Tom Hardy who did a fine job given what he had to work with - but it still had a couple of fun moments.
A bit below average for me, but it was kinda was I was expecting.

I honestly hope they change the PG13 rating for the sequel cause I'd be very dissapointed if Carnage is not shown in all its violent glory I cant see that happening with a PG13 rating.



Jpcc86 said:
I honestly hope they change the PG13 rating for the sequel cause I'd be very dissapointed if Carnage is not shown in all its violent glory I cant see that happening with a PG13 rating.

Exactly why it'll suck. Again, that's like making a Wolverine movie where he doesn't use his claws. 

Well, that and Sony's track record with CBMs is spotty at best. At this point, I don't know who ruins their properties more: Sony or WB.

Avi Arad saying we should feel sorry for a mass-murdering lunatic doesn't instill much confidence, either. 

Last edited by KManX89 - on 12 December 2018