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Will game consoles stop using physical media next gen?

Yes 9 8.11%
 
No 102 91.89%
 
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This is a silly argument.  you have just as much control and you never have to worry about losing or damaging your media.  

Physical costs the devs money, makes the consoles more expensive, etc, etc.  We shouldn't even have the choice.  Digital makes way to much sense for all involved.



CaptainExplosion said:
S.Peelman said:
As a side-note, what would the incentive be for stores to still carry a company’s consoles if they can’t sell the games? Stores don’t make much off the systems themselves (unless used).

Well, EB Games has lately been selling toys, board games, socks, t-shirts, water bottles, lamps, ceramic cookie jars, and more geeky non-gaming stuff. Guess game stores are starting to restructure their business.


That’s true.

It happens here as well in dedicated game stores, they have way more collectibles and merchandising than in the past. Also a suspicious amount of it is actually Zelda stuff. Stores here seemed to have ditched strategy guides though for the most part for some reason.



Can someone explain this to me?

When a $60 game sells in a store, the store gets a $10 cut of the sale. When a digital sale is made, those extra $10 go back to the developer. Why don't game companies offer a discount for digital purchases (as an incentive to sell more digital copies)? In some cases, digital is actually more expensive than physical (I've noticed that oftentimes when a game gets a price cut, the digital version stays the same).

I suspect that maybe stores like Wal-Mart and Target are pressuring the big three to maintain equal pricing, otherwise they would perhaps refuse to sell their brand in stores anymore. Is that really the reason? Or is there more to it than that?

* I just made up numbers here to make my point; I don't actually know how much a store gets on a game sale.



 

CaptainExplosion said:
S.Peelman said:
As a side-note, what would the incentive be for stores to still carry a company’s consoles if they can’t sell the games? Stores don’t make much off the systems themselves (unless used).

Well, EB Games has lately been selling toys, board games, socks, t-shirts, water bottles, lamps, ceramic cookie jars, and more geeky non-gaming stuff. Guess game stores are starting to restructure their business.

Barkley said:

Even with just 10mbit broadband you'll download a 100gb game in under 30 hours.

I imagine most people who purchase physical copies order them online too from Amazon or another online retailer, so unless you have next-day (e.g. prime) it'll take longer to get the physical game delivered then it will to download it even on a slow internet connection.

The wait is only longer compared to buying in-store.

Datacaps are an issue for countries that have them, UK doesn't really.

Do Canada or the United States have datacaps?

Depends on the contract and provider of course, but yes, the US have data caps.

https://broadbandnow.com/internet-providers-with-data-caps



dgboweniii said:

This is a silly argument.  you have just as much control and you never have to worry about losing or damaging your media.  

Physical costs the devs money, makes the consoles more expensive, etc, etc.  We shouldn't even have the choice.  Digital makes way to much sense for all involved.

Sounds like pure ignorance by someone living in a first world country with a great, unlimited internet connection. Especially when you can bet game prices would still stay the same.



Physical media will be around for another 10-15 years easily. The majority of full game sales are still in the physical space.



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KBG29 said:
Physical is not gong anywhere for a long time. It will eventually become a niche market with a higher price tag, but it won't be discontinued anytime soon. If physical media was gong to die, we would have already seen the end of Books, Newspapers, Music, and Movies. The shelf space and demand have shrunk, but it is not dead. As time goes on less and less games will get physical releases, but it will shrink for decade until it reaches a low bar as a niche media, then it will level out.

Next gen will most likely launch with devices that support physical media but options for non PM consoles should pop up over then generation. With PS Now and Game Pass more and more gamers will go to the Netflix business model for their gaming. More people will buy digital for the enhanced value, as platforms expand to more form factors. I think we will leave this gen with PS4/XBO at around 55% digital. Next gen will start off above 50% physical due to early core gamers/collectors adopting first, but will quickly jump to 60 & 70% as the broader market joins the next round.

I agree. I don't see it going away so easily. Physical games may get more and more niche, but there will be always many into them, like films/series blu-rays. I buy series blu-rays sometimes. I'm no collector though. Let alone the real collectors. The same for games. I'm mostly buying digital, but I occasionally buy physical too.



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CaptainExplosion said:
S.Peelman said:

That’s true.

It happens here as well in dedicated game stores, they have way more collectibles and merchandising than in the past. Also a suspicious amount of it is actually Zelda stuff. Stores here seemed to have ditched strategy guides though for the most part for some reason.

Because of online videos showing you what to do. That must be part of why Prima is shutting down. :(

They are? Bad news. They made cool books.



RaptorChrist said:

Can someone explain this to me?

When a $60 game sells in a store, the store gets a $10 cut of the sale. When a digital sale is made, those extra $10 go back to the developer. Why don't game companies offer a discount for digital purchases (as an incentive to sell more digital copies)? In some cases, digital is actually more expensive than physical (I've noticed that oftentimes when a game gets a price cut, the digital version stays the same).

I suspect that maybe stores like Wal-Mart and Target are pressuring the big three to maintain equal pricing, otherwise they would perhaps refuse to sell their brand in stores anymore. Is that really the reason? Or is there more to it than that?

* I just made up numbers here to make my point; I don't actually know how much a store gets on a game sale.

First, yes, I guess the big three don't want to sideline Walmart, Amazon and others like this.

Second, price is not the sum of all costs, price is whatever the market value the product. People just go and pay full price on digital regardless, so, that's the value of a new game. No matter how it's delivered to you, its value is $60 and people just pay. Of course, we can't forget the cuts that come later on. Full price is almost never forever (unless we're talking about Nintendo, lol). (I hope I don't get banned for that small joke but I can't resist -- no console wars: peace and love).



God bless You.

My Total Sales prediction for PS4 by the end of 2021: 110m+

When PS4 will hit 100m consoles sold: Before Christmas 2019

There were three ravens sat on a tree / They were as blacke as they might be / The one of them said to his mate, Where shall we our breakfast take?