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Lesianimanalo said:

I am not sure if you are serious? Mario, Pikachu, Link, Zelda, Luigi, Donkey Kong, Yoshi, Kirby, Toad, Peach, Bowser...are some of most popular and most valuable characters and IPs in gaming industry, I am not even heard for last 3 PS characters that you mentioned and you mentioned them like example of great and popular characters. :D

This may be the case for Nintendo fans and some older gamers who grew up with Nintendo,Only Mario(he's practically a Mascot for the Japanese nation nowadays) and Pikachu are recognizable if one isn't a Nintendo fan/Knowledgeable gamer or just a casual gamer.

No, every gamer heard about all those Nintendo characters and actualy plenty of people that are not in gaming heard for most of those characters, while for instance I that have PS4 and have PS1 and PS2, I didnt heard for last 3 characters that he mentioned. Fact is that those Nintendo IPs, games and characters are much familiar on market in any case generally than Sony characters, I mean even few times most of those Nintendo characters were even in MC in Happy Meal, you can say same thing for Kratos and Drake. :) I mean there is much higher possibility that some person that not at all in gaming headed for some of Nintendo characters while did not heard for not single one Sony characters.

Last edited by Miyamotoo - on 25 September 2018

Miyamotoo said:
Lesianimanalo said:

This may be the case for Nintendo fans and some older gamers who grew up with Nintendo,Only Mario(he's practically a Mascot for the Japanese nation nowadays) and Pikachu are recognizable if one isn't a Nintendo fan/Knowledgeable gamer or just a casual gamer.

No, thats is general consensus, fact is that those games and characters are much familiar on market in any case generally than Sony characters, I mean even few time most of those Nintendo IPs were even in MC in Happy Meal, you can say same thing for Kratos and Drake. :) I mean there is much higher possibility that some person that not at all in gaming headed for some of Nintendo characters while did not heard for not single Sony characters.

Really? from where i am Pikachu and Mario are the only recognizable characters from those you mentioned.



Miyamotoo said:
Lawlight said:

That is true - Nintendo knows how to make cheap products and sell it for a high price. Their games cost very little to make as they recycle concepts with the games being very samey across the generations.

Nintendo games are usualy cheaper than AAA games for other developers because they dont go for ultra realistic games that have movie story, voice acting, characters...so that dont have with recycle concepts of games,actually all their new games of existing IPs are heavily relies on new concepts, for instance every 3D Mario and 3D Zelda are very different, Uncharted games are much more similar than 3D Mario and 3D Zelda games.

Saying all that, on Zelda BotW around 300 people worked almost 5 years despite game dont have realistic graphics and have movie story, but thats why got probably best game of generation.

 

Dr.Vita said: 


Stupid argument. Unlike Kratos or MC the Mario character has been milked by Nintendo now for more than 30 years. How many different franchises/genres does he have now? Super Mario 2D, Super Mario 3D, Mario Party, Mario Kart, Mario Tennis and so many more... Besides that Mario is one of the only few popular characters Nintendo has while Sony has more great and popular characters in different franchises besides Kratos for example Nathan Drake, Ratchet, Sackboy, Aloy, Cole MacGrath to name a few...

I am not sure if you are serious? Mario, Pikachu, Link, Zelda, Luigi, Donkey Kong, Yoshi, Kirby, Toad, Peach, Bowser...are some of most popular and most valuable characters and IPs in gaming industry, I am not even heard for last 3 PS characters that you mentioned and you mentioned them like example of great and popular characters. :D

How long till the bet ends? everytime you post im thinking quickrick got more neutral and it's confusing as fuck lol.



Lesianimanalo said:
Miyamotoo said:

No, thats is general consensus, fact is that those games and characters are much familiar on market in any case generally than Sony characters, I mean even few time most of those Nintendo IPs were even in MC in Happy Meal, you can say same thing for Kratos and Drake. :) I mean there is much higher possibility that some person that not at all in gaming headed for some of Nintendo characters while did not heard for not single Sony characters.

Really? from where i am Pikachu and Mario are the only recognizable characters from those you mentioned.

In that case no one of Sony characters are not recognizable to your country. For record where are you from?



Valdath said:
Miyamotoo said:

Nintendo games are usualy cheaper than AAA games for other developers because they dont go for ultra realistic games that have movie story, voice acting, characters...so that dont have with recycle concepts of games,actually all their new games of existing IPs are heavily relies on new concepts, for instance every 3D Mario and 3D Zelda are very different, Uncharted games are much more similar than 3D Mario and 3D Zelda games.

Saying all that, on Zelda BotW around 300 people worked almost 5 years despite game dont have realistic graphics and have movie story, but thats why got probably best game of generation.

 

I am not sure if you are serious? Mario, Pikachu, Link, Zelda, Luigi, Donkey Kong, Yoshi, Kirby, Toad, Peach, Bowser...are some of most popular and most valuable characters and IPs in gaming industry, I am not even heard for last 3 PS characters that you mentioned and you mentioned them like example of great and popular characters. :D

How long till the bet ends? everytime you post im thinking quickrick got more neutral and it's confusing as fuck lol.

Around 3 weeks. :D



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Miyamotoo said:
DonFerrari said:
Considering aligned sales they were always ahead of X360 and that at the end they sold almost 90M PS3 and 70M PSP I would say that pricecut, redesign and keep churning great 1sp party games got them back to kingdom.

PS3 is around 85m same like X360, and PSP actually sold 82m.

Well the point still stands on the high total sales.



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DonFerrari said:
Miyamotoo said:

PS3 is around 85m same like X360, and PSP actually sold 82m.

Well the point still stands on the high total sales.

My point was just that your sales numbers were not accurate.



Miyamotoo said:
DonFerrari said:

Well the point still stands on the high total sales.

My point was just that your sales numbers were not accurate.

We only have official numbers for total Playstation consoles sold (525.3M), the PS1 (102.49) and PS4 (81.2).  Your numbers are no more accurate than his.



When you were the best before the you fall off, its easy to get back on the path to what made you great, easy transition from the PS3 to PS4.