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Forums - Sales Discussion - Global Hardware 01 September 2018

chakkra said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:
I am actually impressed the XB1 continues to do so well in NA. I mean, what are they really doing? If you just compare PS4 and XB1 game libraries, it would seem the PS4 is just far better, having many more exclusives. And yet in North America XB1 continues to be competitive with PS4. In fact, PS4 is down so far compared to last year XB1 is up compared to last year. Has the XB1 released any significant any significant exclusives in 2018? Is it Sea of Thieves? Is that why more people want an XB1 this year? I doubt it.

From what I can tell, the things that might actually help XB1 are
1) the effort to expand backwards compatibility and/or
2) the popularity of battle royale games like PUBG and Fortnite.

Hard to tell which is the bigger factor at this point.

If I were to make a guess I would say it is a combination of:

A) X1X

B) Games Pass (I mean, for the price of ONE game on the competition camp, you have access here to 100 games during 6 months)

C) Backwards compatibility (The fact that they have put the effort to enhance many of those games virtually making them re-masters for free)

In fact, what I find weird is that the rest of the world has not been affected one bit by any of this.

I also think Americans (both media & consumers) slightly favor american products, which they view Xbox as.
If xbox was doing as well as the PS4 in terms of software, it could well be the leading platform in the USA.



chakkra said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:
I am actually impressed the XB1 continues to do so well in NA. I mean, what are they really doing? If you just compare PS4 and XB1 game libraries, it would seem the PS4 is just far better, having many more exclusives. And yet in North America XB1 continues to be competitive with PS4. In fact, PS4 is down so far compared to last year XB1 is up compared to last year. Has the XB1 released any significant any significant exclusives in 2018? Is it Sea of Thieves? Is that why more people want an XB1 this year? I doubt it.

From what I can tell, the things that might actually help XB1 are
1) the effort to expand backwards compatibility and/or
2) the popularity of battle royale games like PUBG and Fortnite.

Hard to tell which is the bigger factor at this point.

If I were to make a guess I would say it is a combination of:

A) X1X

B) Games Pass (I mean, for the price of ONE game on the competition camp, you have access here to 100 games during 6 months)

C) Backwards compatibility (The fact that they have put the effort to enhance many of those games virtually making them re-masters for free)

In fact, what I find weird is that the rest of the world has not been affected one bit by any of this.

I forgot about Games Pass.  That is another likely cause.  (And as I said I think backwards compatibility efforts are helping them.)

X1X is probably giving a small boost, but I don't think it is the biggest factor.  I mean, Sony has the PS4 Pro and it is still down YoY so far, while XB1 is up YoY.  Usually game library is the most important thing, which clearly PS4 has in its favor.  But backwards compatibility effectively does increase the game library, and Games Pass makes the library a lot more accessible.  Most likely it is one of those (or both) that is giving the XB1 the biggest boost.



The_Liquid_Laser said:
chakkra said:

If I were to make a guess I would say it is a combination of:

A) X1X

B) Games Pass (I mean, for the price of ONE game on the competition camp, you have access here to 100 games during 6 months)

C) Backwards compatibility (The fact that they have put the effort to enhance many of those games virtually making them re-masters for free)

In fact, what I find weird is that the rest of the world has not been affected one bit by any of this.

I forgot about Games Pass.  That is another likely cause.  (And as I said I think backwards compatibility efforts are helping them.)

X1X is probably giving a small boost, but I don't think it is the biggest factor.  I mean, Sony has the PS4 Pro and it is still down YoY so far, while XB1 is up YoY.  Usually game library is the most important thing, which clearly PS4 has in its favor.  But backwards compatibility effectively does increase the game library, and Games Pass makes the library a lot more accessible.  Most likely it is one of those (or both) that is giving the XB1 the biggest boost.

But you are forgetting that last year was PS4's peak.  Which was effectively the year after the PS4 Pro release.

And this the year after X1X release so it could be having the same effect.

But I do agree with you that it is almost impossible to tell what is the biggest factor.



September is gonna be huge for PS4



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Nice! Not a huge change from last week but nice numbers none the less. The PS4 holding number 1 again. The Switch still going strong and yet again XB1 still having its best year yet. This time of year is just....well yeah the best lol. Next week is SPM week for the PS4. I don't know if it will hit 300k but I know it will definitely be better than this week for sure!



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Bofferbrauer2 said:
Nate4Drake said:

The week could be over 300,000 worldwide.  We'll see.

With the bundle, I pretty much think so.

If it doesn't then it's not outselling last year's week, either. Anybody remembers what released back then that boosted sales by 45k?

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XBox: Kenjabish

Is switch slowing down, or only my perception?
20 million this year still seems not easy to reach



jonathanalis said:
Is switch slowing down, or only my perception?
20 million this year still seems not easy to reach

It's up pretty well from last year.



jonathanalis said:
Is switch slowing down, or only my perception?
20 million this year still seems not easy to reach

No big releases in August and September, so it's slowing down a bit. It's still outselling last year every week, but not by much anymore... which should change when SMP and the Fortnite Bundle releases and Nintendo slowly starts the afterburners for the holiday season



jonathanalis said:
Is switch slowing down, or only my perception?
20 million this year still seems not easy to reach

Only your perception. They already sold 7 millions this year in 8 months with only a few system-seller (Octopath, maybe Donkey Kong and Mario Tennis, not sure about Labo or Kirby) and they still have 3 big 1st party titles (Super Mario Party, Pokémon & Super Smash Bros.) for the holidays, not mentioning third party titles (Dragon Ball FighterZ, Dark Souls, Diablo III, World of Final Fantasy, and maybe Spyro). So they can definitly sell 7 or 8 more millions by the end of the year, and even 1 or 2 millions more in january with the release of New Super Mario Bros U Deluxe, and the usual 1 million per month in february and march.