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Are you buying the Nintendo Online Service?

Yes 103 60.95%
 
No 54 31.95%
 
Undecided 12 7.10%
 
Total:169

Huh, so apparently you can buy the online using gold coins. So if I buy 7 full-priced games a year I can get the online for free basically. Sharing a family plan is obviously better but since none of my friends own a Switch I might as well do this once I have enough coins.



mZuzek said:
Runa216 said:

Entitled much? In what world do you think you deserve to receive a service without paying for it? Great or not, it's still a service that does cost money to host and run. 

Entitled for paying $300 on the console, $60 on the game, and a monthly fee to my internet provider? Yes, yes I am. Paying for an online service is only acceptable if said service is decent to begin with... but P2P isn't just bad, it's actually not a service at all, and I'm not sure you understand that. The other consoles can get away with paid online because not only is the service as a whole much better, but they have loads and loads of online-centric games which actually use SERVERS. Nintendo has one online-centric game and it's P2P, which was the standard for online games like 15 years ago, and guess what, it was free. When servers started becoming the norm, that's when paid online started becoming the norm, so yes, I feel quite rightfully entitled.

(And yeah technically I didn't pay $300 on the console because I got it for free in a giveaway, but that isn't Nintendo's problem.)

And if you paid 300 for a console, you can still use that console. 

If you pay 60 for a game, then you can still use that game (unless it is online only, and that's not a Nintendo exclusive idea)

If you pay for your internet service, you can still use internet. 

But that doesn't entitle you to use Nintendo's online service, which was stated from the get-go would have a fee associated with it. 

It's almost like you don't understand how economics work. 

You don't get to buy the burger and just assume the french fries are free and get angry because you have to pay the combo price to get pop and chips to go with it. 



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Runa216 said:
mZuzek said:

Entitled for paying $300 on the console, $60 on the game, and a monthly fee to my internet provider? Yes, yes I am. Paying for an online service is only acceptable if said service is decent to begin with... but P2P isn't just bad, it's actually not a service at all, and I'm not sure you understand that. The other consoles can get away with paid online because not only is the service as a whole much better, but they have loads and loads of online-centric games which actually use SERVERS. Nintendo has one online-centric game and it's P2P, which was the standard for online games like 15 years ago, and guess what, it was free. When servers started becoming the norm, that's when paid online started becoming the norm, so yes, I feel quite rightfully entitled.

(And yeah technically I didn't pay $300 on the console because I got it for free in a giveaway, but that isn't Nintendo's problem.)

And if you paid 300 for a console, you can still use that console. 

If you pay 60 for a game, then you can still use that game (unless it is online only, and that's not a Nintendo exclusive idea)

If you pay for your internet service, you can still use internet. 

But that doesn't entitle you to use Nintendo's online service, which was stated from the get-go would have a fee associated with it. 

It's almost like you don't understand how economics work. 

You don't get to buy the burger and just assume the french fries are free and get angry because you have to pay the combo price to get pop and chips to go with it. 

Sorry this is off topic, but are you from Cleveland or something. I'm from Cleveland and we say pop. Just had to ask. I know folks from Detroit that call it pop as well.



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Rafie said:
Runa216 said:

And if you paid 300 for a console, you can still use that console. 

If you pay 60 for a game, then you can still use that game (unless it is online only, and that's not a Nintendo exclusive idea)

If you pay for your internet service, you can still use internet. 

But that doesn't entitle you to use Nintendo's online service, which was stated from the get-go would have a fee associated with it. 

It's almost like you don't understand how economics work. 

You don't get to buy the burger and just assume the french fries are free and get angry because you have to pay the combo price to get pop and chips to go with it. 

Sorry this is off topic, but are you from Cleveland or something. I'm from Cleveland and we say pop. Just had to ask. I know folks from Detroit that call it pop as well.

Canadian. A lot of us say pop instead of soda. 



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PS5, Switch, XSX

PS4, PS3, PS2, PS1, WiiU, Wii, GCN, N64 SNES, XBO, 360

3DS, DS, GBA, Vita, PSP, Android

Runa216 said:
mZuzek said:

Entitled for paying $300 on the console, $60 on the game, and a monthly fee to my internet provider? Yes, yes I am. Paying for an online service is only acceptable if said service is decent to begin with... but P2P isn't just bad, it's actually not a service at all, and I'm not sure you understand that. The other consoles can get away with paid online because not only is the service as a whole much better, but they have loads and loads of online-centric games which actually use SERVERS. Nintendo has one online-centric game and it's P2P, which was the standard for online games like 15 years ago, and guess what, it was free. When servers started becoming the norm, that's when paid online started becoming the norm, so yes, I feel quite rightfully entitled.

(And yeah technically I didn't pay $300 on the console because I got it for free in a giveaway, but that isn't Nintendo's problem.)

And if you paid 300 for a console, you can still use that console. 

If you pay 60 for a game, then you can still use that game (unless it is online only, and that's not a Nintendo exclusive idea)

If you pay for your internet service, you can still use internet. 

But that doesn't entitle you to use Nintendo's online service, which was stated from the get-go would have a fee associated with it. 

It's almost like you don't understand how economics work. 

You don't get to buy the burger and just assume the french fries are free and get angry because you have to pay the combo price to get pop and chips to go with it. 

The correct analogy would be buying a burger, say a Big Mac to be more specific, but not getting the lettuce and mayo unless you pay extra. The base price of a game already covers the cost of online play, so the only reason to have an additional charge to play the game is greed. Dunno if you work for Nintendo or are just a diehard fan with how obsessively you're trying to change people's minds, but it ain't gonna happen, best just accept it and move on.

Lonely_Dolphin said:
Runa216 said:

And if you paid 300 for a console, you can still use that console. 

If you pay 60 for a game, then you can still use that game (unless it is online only, and that's not a Nintendo exclusive idea)

If you pay for your internet service, you can still use internet. 

But that doesn't entitle you to use Nintendo's online service, which was stated from the get-go would have a fee associated with it. 

It's almost like you don't understand how economics work. 

You don't get to buy the burger and just assume the french fries are free and get angry because you have to pay the combo price to get pop and chips to go with it. 

The correct analogy would be buying a burger, say a Big Mac to be more specific, but not getting the lettuce and mayo unless you pay extra. The base price of a game already covers the cost of online play, so the only reason to have an additional charge to play the game is greed. Dunno if you work for Nintendo or are just a diehard fan with how obsessively you're trying to change people's minds, but it ain't gonna happen, best just accept it and move on.

No, that's a poor analogy, the cost of the game doesn't automatically cover online costs and holy shit why am I arguing? 

You are wrong. 

And this isn't just about Nintendo. WoW costs monthly to play online. Xbox One costs money to play online. Final Fantasy XIV costs money to play online. PS4 costs money to play online. Nintendo's online cost is a fraction of any of those fees and you're still whining. It has little to do with 'Nintendo' as a whole, but it sounds like you're raging against the idea of online play and Nintendo happens to be the bitch du jour so you're arguing your points while pretending it's somehow Nintendo exclusive to act like you're on topic. 

If you don't like paying for online, that's fine. I'm not too fond of it either, but online gaming is a luxury. If you don't wanna pay for it, play on PC. Based on the numbers and how much money PSN/XBL makes from as many sources as it does proves that the service is a value and that it's worth it to many. You and others just have entitlement issues. 



My Console Library:

PS5, Switch, XSX

PS4, PS3, PS2, PS1, WiiU, Wii, GCN, N64 SNES, XBO, 360

3DS, DS, GBA, Vita, PSP, Android

I'm actually super upset that I bought Nintendo Switch Online. I don't recommend it and hope Nintendo improves it.



Runa216 said:
Lonely_Dolphin said:
The correct analogy would be buying a burger, say a Big Mac to be more specific, but not getting the lettuce and mayo unless you pay extra. The base price of a game already covers the cost of online play, so the only reason to have an additional charge to play the game is greed. Dunno if you work for Nintendo or are just a diehard fan with how obsessively you're trying to change people's minds, but it ain't gonna happen, best just accept it and move on.

No, that's a poor analogy, the cost of the game doesn't automatically cover online costs and holy shit why am I arguing? 

You are wrong. 

And this isn't just about Nintendo. WoW costs monthly to play online. Xbox One costs money to play online. Final Fantasy XIV costs money to play online. PS4 costs money to play online. Nintendo's online cost is a fraction of any of those fees and you're still whining. It has little to do with 'Nintendo' as a whole, but it sounds like you're raging against the idea of online play and Nintendo happens to be the bitch du jour so you're arguing your points while pretending it's somehow Nintendo exclusive to act like you're on topic. 

If you don't like paying for online, that's fine. I'm not too fond of it either, but online gaming is a luxury. If you don't wanna pay for it, play on PC. Based on the numbers and how much money PSN/XBL makes from as many sources as it does proves that the service is a value and that it's worth it to many. You and others just have entitlement issues. 

"You're wrong because I say so" - That's a pretty weak argument. The base price of the game obviously does cover online cost otherwise pay2play woulda been a thing from the get go and there wouldn't be PC versions of online games let alone exclusive ones. Makes no sense to sell a game that's guaranteed to lose money.

Hmm, well then I can't understand why a consumer would defend anti-consumer practices, but it shouldn't be hard to understand the opposite. Naturally I don't like paying more for something I've already paid for. If that's a problem for you, welp too bad! Call it entitlement issues or whatever else, but it wont stop people from complaining about pay2play and Nintendo's lame offerings, and that's good, as doing otherwise wont make Nintendo improve.

Not until there exists a game on it that I actually want to play online.



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