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Runa216 on 15 September 2018

Can I delete my comments from this thread? I'm sick of seeing stupid console war/graphics whores stinking up the place. Sick of the misrepresentation on both sides of the argument, sick of the bias, sick of the lack of logic and reason.

What a damn waste of space.



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The_Liquid_Laser on 15 September 2018
GOWTLOZ said:

The_Liquid_Laser said:

Sony certainly believes that it is graphics that sells the PS4 Pro.  

Yeah, and we can see that the PS4 Pro is selling so well right? Yeah, no.

Sony has been touting PS4 Pro's 4K capabilities and boost mode which increases FRAMERATE. Neither resolution nor framerate are graphics, its the graphical settings that count and most PS4 to Pro conversions have the same else slightly better setting at higher resolutions and framerates.

You keep using the word "graphics".  I do not think it means what you think it means.



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DonFerrari on 16 September 2018
melbye said:
GOWTLOZ said:

What downgrade? The final game looks better to me on the TV. I don't see what they downgraded.

Still if you insist, one instance from 2005 changes nothing.

Yeah, and we can see that the PS4 Pro is selling so well right? Yeah, no.

Sony has been touting PS4 Pro's 4K capabilities and boost mode which increases FRAMERATE. Neither resolution nor framerate are graphics, its the graphical settings that count and most PS4 to Pro conversions have the same else slightly better setting at higher resolutions and framerates.

Exactly, but I don't think PwerlvlAmy will accept that her logic is flawed to the core and biased.

For the matter, Mario Kart 8 sold more on Wii U than God of War 3 did on PS3, and also a more recent game, so why is it fair to port Mario Kart 8 when its sold more and was released relatively recently? This is really bad coming from a moderator of all people.

You can't compare Mario Kart to last of us or God of War since Mario Kart sales-potential is far higher than those for various reasons. Her logic is very easy to understand, despite selling relatively well Mario Kart 8 potential was hindered by a flop console. And that is true for most WiiU-games, just compare games like Mario U and Donkey Kong Country TP with their Wii predecessors

And TLOU selling more on PS4 than it had on PS3, launching little time later with Sony admiting a good bunch of PS4 owners never had a PS3 (they can't lie on the percentages they presented) proves the same thing, that there was a reason for the remaster and that the selling potential was limited being PS3 only. So it is the same argument but with excuses made later to not accept the double standard.

But if we want to play this game what about Zelda? Been ported from GC /Wii to WiiU less than 10 years later and to a much smaller audience? Or BoTW being forced to late release to become trans generation? Or Mario 1,2 and 3 remake launching as Mario Superstars on SNES?

Nope let's all pretend Sony customers are dumb for accepting Sony releasing TLOU as basically a trans gen because some people double dipped (guess that also makes 100M suckers for buying GTA V) but the brightest on Nintendo buying Twilight princess for GC, Wii and WiiU or Pokemon for that matter are a different thing "because of reasons"



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pxrocks on 17 September 2018
PwerlvlAmy said:
pxrocks said:
When a PlayStation exclusive releases I can feel the jealousy of my friends who don't own a ps4.i already convinced most of them to buy a ps4.
Those who don't have ps4 they always say some weird things about those exclusives.i really enjoy their suffering.also all this downgrade thing started from ubisoft now it's spreading to PlayStation.

Ubisoft is the king of downgrades,but most people havent forgiven Sony for Killzone 2

but retail version of killzone still looked gorgeous.cant say that for watchdog,witcher 3  or many more third party titles.



GOWTLOZ on 19 September 2018
melbye said:
GOWTLOZ said:

What downgrade? The final game looks better to me on the TV. I don't see what they downgraded.

Still if you insist, one instance from 2005 changes nothing.

Yeah, and we can see that the PS4 Pro is selling so well right? Yeah, no.

Sony has been touting PS4 Pro's 4K capabilities and boost mode which increases FRAMERATE. Neither resolution nor framerate are graphics, its the graphical settings that count and most PS4 to Pro conversions have the same else slightly better setting at higher resolutions and framerates.

Exactly, but I don't think PwerlvlAmy will accept that her logic is flawed to the core and biased.

For the matter, Mario Kart 8 sold more on Wii U than God of War 3 did on PS3, and also a more recent game, so why is it fair to port Mario Kart 8 when its sold more and was released relatively recently? This is really bad coming from a moderator of all people.

You can't compare Mario Kart to last of us or God of War since Mario Kart sales-potential is far higher than those for various reasons. Her logic is very easy to understand, despite selling relatively well Mario Kart 8 potential was hindered by a flop console. And that is true for most WiiU-games, just compare games like Mario U and Donkey Kong Country TP with their Wii predecessors

God of War 3's sales potential was hindered by it releasing at the same time as Final Fantasy 13. Mario Kart 8 had no competition when it was released.