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Forums - Movies & TV - Disney fires 'Guardians of the Galaxy' director James Gunn over 'indefensible' old tweets

Majin-Tenshinhan on 22 July 2018
Tulipanzo said:
Majin-Tenshinhan said:

No, that wouldn't be fair, but I also think it's pretty damn silly that you genuinely think singing a word is a huge mistake and that you've evolved as a person by not doing it anymore. Putting that much weight into a word - especially one you're just repeating from the lyrics - is a clear sign of what's wrong with today's society.

Also, again, the reason I'm "defending" what's happening to him is because he wanted this for others. He was gloating smugly when others got fired for dumb stuff they'd tweeted. Now the shoe's on the other foot. Credit to him that he's not whining about unfair treatment, he's taking it and saying he understands Disney. But his fans are not.

It's really telling that the best argument you can come up with is to summon a bogeyman that did it first.
Especially since you're willing to let go of your conviction that saying bad words doesn't matter, just because you don't like the guy. Flip-flopping much?

Wow, aggressive much? Note that I'm not even defending them - hence the quote marks. The only thing I've said - repeatedly - is that it's hard to feel bad for him when this is what he himself has been advocating for. He got what he wanted. Aim your ire elsewhere, or at least read the posts you're responding to first. I'm just stating facts, and haven't given an opinion one way or the other on the firing.



Ganoncrotch on 22 July 2018

Just don't forget if you wanna question the integrity of someone based on their twitter activity.

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guy believes rape isn't a real thing.



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Majin-Tenshinhan on 22 July 2018

What's the point of linking Mike Cernovich tweets? Has anyone in here defended him? I certainly haven't.

He's the guy who brought up the tweets, does that make them not exist? No, Gunn himself hasn't denied writing them. It doesn't matter how bad Cernovich is or isn't. He's not the one working at Disney.



numberwang on 22 July 2018

What do you understand by date rape?



Jon-Erich on 22 July 2018

James Gunn has become Ice Cube. He got fired on his day off.



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3sexty on 22 July 2018

Those tweets are just really bad jokes. Nothing more nothing less. However to be sacked like several years later for it???. Seriously though these leftist thought police have taken control of Hollywood amongst other areas of society. Tragic and gone too far IMO. 



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jardesonbarbosa on 22 July 2018

Every single company does that, even the smaller ones. And it's the smart thing to do, nobody is irreplaceable, but the damage some words can make to a company's image can last for years.



Tulipanzo on 22 July 2018
Aeolus451 said:
Tulipanzo said:

1) Again, I've only seen PizzaGaters repeat the 10k tweets thing... Unsourched... mmmm

2) There was a pretty public apology for those in 2012. In particular, again, there was no outrage over these tweets, it was a clear abuse of PR by people who couldn't give less of a toss. Nobody is asking why Disney did this, the problem is people trying to silence their political opponents by getting them fired.

3) You once again say "the thing is bad, but it's fine this time because it's somebody I don't like". Defending the hate mob while saying hate mobs are bad is maybe a little hypocritical...

p.s. Hilariously, excusing shooting up a pizzeria is "gone after pedo activity". No, he hasn't. He has tried to make up lies about everyone he doesn't like being a pedophile, endangering real lives in the process for political gain. 
This is an extension of that.

4) No, you're accusing somebody of being a pedophile based on ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. This is little more than a smear campaign.

It's quite clear that the only way to defend this is to parrot the alt-right viewpoint. It shows how you don't actually care about the issues you purport to champion, as long as people you don't agree with shut up.
The Left did this, and the Left is bad, crazy, and irresponsible for doing this. Also, we're doing it; but this time is fine. 

1. Doesn't matter what you think. The info and tweets are out there. Put your head in the sand all you want.

2. Public apologies don't have to be accepted. Lefties invented it and use it all the time to deplatform people.

3. Lefties would just keep using underhanded tactics unless it's used on them. If they want to play dirty, let's play dirty until they agree to being nice. Want to go after people's jobs? Okay. Want to deplatform people from talking? Okay. Want to use social pressure to force companies to cave? Okay. Again, the left has no ground to bitch about this stuff being done back at them.

4. No, silly. I was showing the error in your logic. You're saying Roseanne is a racist because of what she said. Can't the same be said about that guy with his pedo comments?

That last bit just sounds like a banshee  screaming "SCREECH!" to me.

1) Provide a source of get fucked is what I'm saying (third time you're asked btw)

2) Ignoring the rest of the point, to be expected

3) You're once again imagining a bunch of people digging up old dirt, rather than fresh positions. You're also once again saying "LEFT BAD", which still doesn't justify this event, while providing fuck all evidence to support it. The best this thread could come up with is some rubbish about Mitt Romney (debunked above).
I could say, "the Right screeched for almost a decade about Obama's birth certificate", then go on to make lies about whomever, but this wouldn't make my position worth taking seriously. Would it yours?

P.S. The problem here? There was no hate mob. If there were, then I wouldn't be able to point to Mike Cernovich, or to anyone really, as the principal cause of the firing...
I also wouldn't be able to just point to Mike meeting Milo to underline the hypocrisy. Yet here we are

4) This shows that in your mind racism and pedophilia are equally unsubstantiated smears, which tells me a lot about how you think, but it also easily disprovable.
Why? Racism is a system of beliefs, pedophilia is not. By that metric it's quite obvious to distinguish between edgy jokes and sincerely held beliefs.

P.S. I'd suggest you start making up strawmen to defend your nonsense ideology, since this is not the first thread you cover your ears and cry at "the leftists"
Still, you're not using SJWs as often. That's growth right there



Tulipanzo on 22 July 2018
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
What's the point of linking Mike Cernovich tweets? Has anyone in here defended him? I certainly haven't.

He's the guy who brought up the tweets, does that make them not exist? No, Gunn himself hasn't denied writing them. It doesn't matter how bad Cernovich is or isn't. He's not the one working at Disney.

It's funny right? Almost as if it's incredibly easy to notice when a single person is behind something, rather than an actual group of people.
The tweets are irrelevant; what matters is a very vocal minority of conspiracy theorists targeting trigger-happy PR departments to silence their political opponents. 
As such, linking him in to show his hypocrisy is 100% relevant to the discussion.



Tulipanzo on 22 July 2018
John2290 said:
There's jokes and then there's this guys tweets. One or two did seem like jokes and legit made me crack a smile but the vast majority seem like the guy was just posting random thoughts to twitter not understanding the implications of the tweets being there for the rest of his life and the effect they'd have on his future career years later, I mean some were pre 2012, some a decade old well before twitter ruled celebrities and influencers careers and had a massive impact in news. His 'jokes'...more like thoughts are pretty disturbing in some, he'd be ruined completely if there wasn't a few jokes in there to make that defence,pretty lucky to just loose his job and not his entire life to outrage.
Also, There is lots of hypocrisy going on here. People on the right acting like the left and playing right into the playbook they claim to despise and people on the left who usually are the ones tearing people down are bending their own code of outrage ethics for this guy and fans who are in both camps making exceptions. Be consistent if you want this to be the way media conpanies conduct business and for fuck sake have some dignity, and if you've defended or criticised people like Pewdie pie or Rosanne for similar or lesser 'offences' do the same here.
I think this outrage mob shit needs to die,hell it needed to die in 2015. An entity all of it's own has been created and it doesn't matter if 99% of people agree on somethibg anymore this entity will always have the same outcome regardless of who is right or wrong or completely innocent.

You can be critical of a person's tweet, while also realizing the whole reason they are up for discussion at all is a Pizzagate smear job.
It's not as simple as "firing people good" or "firing people bad", and this nonsense centrism is such a sign you haven't paid attention to the larger discussion.