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o_O.Q said:
Machiavellian said:

The crazy part is that there are a lot of Trans you would never know they were men until the junk is shone.  The ideal that a Trans will still look like a man shows just how much a lot of people here probable never seen one.  Yes there are ones that definitely still look masculine but there are also a lot where they do not.  Either way, it seems funny that people complain about an actor doing their job.  

this is gigi gorgeous 

supposedly one of the most attractive and popular transwomen... and i pretty much have no trouble in telling that this was a dude at some point

Fuck that. Sarina Valentina is the most attractive transwoman/shemale. I'd post a pic, but I'm at work and the Google results would include nudes. 

Edit: Found one. 

DarthMetalliCube said: 
danasider said: 

You've never heard of a movie doing poorly because of bad casting? I'm not even talking identity politics. I am talking about movies were certain roles were so poorly casted that it ruined the movie. Jake Lloyd from the Phantom Menace is a prime example of this. Poor kid's life was ruined, and he ticks all the boxes that Anakin Skywalker should have. He's was a white, straight, male child. He was just a terrible actor (yes, even compared to other kids). Hayden Christensen was similarly criticized for the same role in later films of the prequel trilogy.

On the other end, we have movies that have been praised for fantastic casting. For me, that'd be something like The Brady Bunch Movie.

Either way, I don't believe at all that "whoever is best for the job gets the part, END of story". Otherwise, people wouldn't praise or condemn a movie for its casting. And I certainly doubt SJ won the part, because of merit. She was last year's most bankable female star because of the Avengers, but most other roles have led to flops, her acting has been mediocre at best, and a movie about a trans actor would likely have little box office impact from her Avengers success.

Regardless, she was ALREADY cast. Which meant the casting process was over. Time to move on. But no..

Ironically, all this caving into the social justice cultural Authoritarian bullies has done is probably set the movie back to god knows how long, and even if the movie DOES eventually get made and they do find one of the very few trans actors out there that can jump into the part, it likely won't brings in even close to the numbers it would have with Johansson. The movie's probably dead in the water with this move.

Yep. Get woke, go broke. 

Last edited by thismeintiel - on 15 July 2018

KManX89 said:

http://screencrush.com/scarlett-johansson-rub-tug-trans-man-movie/?trackback=twitter_mobile_top

Wow, they never learn, do they? First she plays an Asian character as a white chick in Ghost in the Shell and now this shit? Get the fuck out of here! And it's got the same director from the live-action Ghost in the Shell movie, too (Rupert Sanders).

I guess she learned nothing from all the backlash her whole whitewashing controversy got in their other movie, LOL. Which BTW, it was a shitty movie even on its own terms, even looking past the fact that Sco Jo isn't an iota Asian no matter how much pale makeup they put on her.

Does it really matter if a "white chick" played an Asian character?  Haven't you noticed that lots of comic and cartoon characters get their colors or genders changed in movies?

Are you upset that it was specifically a white chick playing the role of some other race?  Sounding a little racist there my friend..



Backlash is well deserved! Queer actors and actresses had a hard enough time as it is to get roles. For a white woman who has endless other options to come in and take away the few oppotunities they had is just insulting.

To make it worse, this same woman already stole a role from Asians (another group who doesn't get representations in Hollywood). Nah she isn't getting away with it a second time.



thismeintiel said:
o_O.Q said:

this is gigi gorgeous 

supposedly one of the most attractive and popular transwomen... and i pretty much have no trouble in telling that this was a dude at some point

Fuck that. Sarina Valentina is the most attractive transwoman/shemale. I'd post a pic, but I'm at work and the Google results would include nudes. 

Edit: Found one. 

 

Ever hear of Bailey Jay? I’d rate her as the most attractive. But yours is good too. 



MinatozakiSana said:
Backlash is well deserved! Queer actors and actresses had a hard enough time as it is to get roles. For a white woman who has endless other options to come in and take away the few oppotunities they had is just insulting.

To make it worse, this same woman already stole a role from Asians (another group who doesn't get representations in Hollywood). Nah she isn't getting away with it a second time.

Did it occur to you that maybe, just maybe she happened to be the best person for the role, hence why she was cast? What if a trans actor comes in and does a miserable performance, dragging the whole movie down with her and makes it a horrible flop? Would you really rather have that?

Again, sure, I'll concede that it'd probably make more sense for a great trans actor to play the role over a great female actor in a perfect world, but in reality.. was there one? Not only one that was up to the task and a quality actor, but one that would draw in as big an audience? At the end of the day, Johansson was cast. There must have been SOME good reason for it, right?

I'll say it again - Strip away the high-horse, holier than thou virtue signaling and this is just another form of bigotry, only with a different shade and dressed up as "progressive." This trend of one's identity residing over EVERYTHING is primitive, backwards, and frankly needs to die.

Sorry if I come off as harsh or offended anyone, but I feel strongly about this stuff.



 

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Scarlett Johansson is an amazing actress that can play different roles like these, im sure she will do fine.
They seek the right kind off talent and quality in first place and the rest can be done with makeup.



MinatozakiSana said:
Backlash is well deserved! Queer actors and actresses had a hard enough time as it is to get roles. For a white woman who has endless other options to come in and take away the few oppotunities they had is just insulting.

To make it worse, this same woman already stole a role from Asians (another group who doesn't get representations in Hollywood). Nah she isn't getting away with it a second time.

She did and does more good in one year of her life than any of the Diversity pitchforkers would ever accomplish, she actually helped other people that have less around the world and did a lot for charity.

All you do here is thinking you have a moral highground while helping none.

Here are some things she did and does,im sure its more than you will ever do to help others:

She served as an oxfam Ambassador for eight years, starting in 2007, and created a video journal of her visit to Kenya with the organization. In 2007 she skipped the Oscars in order to tour India and Sri Lanka as part of Oxfam projects. During her 10-day trip she visited an Oxfam-funded school in Uttar Pradesh, got involved in a few healthcare projects and one domestic violence project involving Indian women, and travelled to Sri Lanka to see how the charity was helping in reconstruction projects after the 2004 tsunami.

Johansson also spent time helping Hurricane Katrina victims by dishing out food from USA Harvest to the homeless at the Made Love Cafe in St. Benard Parish in New Orleans.

Scarlett finds charity work very rewarding, and told USA Today: “It was nice to feel part of the community. Certainly your vanity is the last thing on your mind when you’re travelling in a place like this.”

She added: “It’s amazing to come home when you see people living in poverty. On one hand you’re thinking, my celebrity life is so surreal, but it’s my work and it helps me bring awareness to Oxfam.”

Johansson visited Rwanda in September, 2008, to increase awareness of AIDS sufferers in African nations. She spent four days attending AIDS clinics alongside charity workers for (RED): “It was important for me to come here and see the issues we’re up against first hand. I came here with an open mind, wanting to listen, understand and learn; I leave with the overwhelming understanding that the small action of making a (RED) choice in your purchases… has an enormous impact on the lives of people in countries like Rwanda.”

On top of all this, Scarlett is an avid supporter of Soles4Souls, and has donated 2,000 pairs of new shoes in the past. She says, “If you can’t dig deep in your pockets, than dig in your closet! Americans can make a huge difference with Soles4Souls by donating shoes. Souls4Soles gives away a pair of shoes every 13 seconds in over 120 countries, with over 55 percent donated to fellow Americans.”



Isn't a trans someone that belonged to another genre at birth? So if she plays with her usual looks being someone turned woman she is show right on image, if she plays a man after make-up she is playing it right as transformation... So I don't see the issue...

Now if you want a transgender being portrayed by a transgender I don't think there are many talented and pretty transgender actors for choice to cast... besides that actors never represent who they are, so unless you demand engineers play engineers roles in movies and doctors for doctors, etc your point is very silly.



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So now what? The movie is probably shelved because of petty people that didn't understand what acting is?

Congrats, burned the forest to catch the deer.



MinatozakiSana said:
Backlash is well deserved! Queer actors and actresses had a hard enough time as it is to get roles. For a white woman who has endless other options to come in and take away the few oppotunities they had is just insulting.

To make it worse, this same woman already stole a role from Asians (another group who doesn't get representations in Hollywood). Nah she isn't getting away with it a second time.

"For a white woman who has endless other options to come in and take away the few oppotunities they had is just insulting. "


lol are you trying to imply that women are privileged?

because that's just hilarious to me on at least 3 levels