zorg1000 said:
DonFerrari said:
Yeah and so bad at it... no one even said the devs were dumb in this thread right it was somewhere else on the internet... and I said Curl-6 said it right?
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You responded to curl: "So no i refuse to accept the idea of them being DUMB"
I mean how do you not see how this comes off as you telling him hes calling them dumb? Like i said, ive seen you do this a few times recently, even to me on one or two occasions.
I believe its not intentional but if youre going to respond to someone and argue against points they never made then its probably best to state you arent referring to them from the start.
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As I said to him Zorg, his replies to me was after I was responding to the claims of Dumb devs, so it was on the line of argument. And I clarified that I wasn't calling him out on it, but that was included on the argument he was replying to.
Will you deny that in plenty of threads we have see a lot of people saying devs are dumb and hate Nintendo as the main reason for ports not being made or that they should develop exclusives to Switch (some of those said within 6 months of release).
And very good that you think doing personal attacks is valid while consider that saying there is Nintendo fans that call devs dumb is somewhat an attack to all Nintendo fanbase.
Mnementh said:
DonFerrari said:
Yeah and so bad at it... no one even said the devs were dumb in this thread right it was somewhere else on the internet... and I said Curl-6 said it right?
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Nobody said that you said curl said it. I explicitly said, that these opinions are taken from someone else and a third person has to argue this. You said it yourself so:
"I know, but when you are replying to that point it must be taken in consideration."
No, it mustn't taken into consideration, what someone else says to justify my argument.
It isn't something from you alone (I don't make checklists who made which argument fallacy how often), I just noticed it in many people. And it happens to Sony fans the same, that to their argument is replied: "But some random person who happens to be Sony fan said ..."
I didn't meant to single you out, it was just the moment taht I had to express my general disappointment about this argumental strategy. So please don't take it personal, I don't even know if you do stuff like that more often, as I said, I only notice the behaviour and forget who it was. I only noticed it is used against all sides, not only Nintendo.
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It must be taken in consideration.
Curl was answering first to a post that had it, so it must be taken in consideration. There are to many people in VGC that jump in discussions answering posts but ignoring the context of the discussion itself to them say "that wasn't what I was discussing". If you want to arguee a different point to someone then you may be clear that you want to address another point.
But going at the rest of your post. I saw your reply and you are right that we have a lot of users that bring "data" from other forums only he visited to say there are people doing that. I didn't take it personally and that is why I didn't reply to you. There is one user in here that everytime he see I posting a critic to something Nintendo done he says that I should be complaining at XX and YY forums at Sony fans that defend Vita, which after I say those Sony fans are wrong he keep repeating that If I'm not going there to criticize Vita and fight them I must be a fanboy as well and can't criticize mistakes Nintendo may have made.
GoOnKid said:
Well, if we are talking about this specific thread, then it was me who said that Activision's decision to not even think about checking if a Crash port on the Switch is possible at all was dumb.And I truly think that it's dumb.
DonFerrari had nothing noteworthy to reply to that, but instead used some comments including mine as a nice chance to bash the entire Nintendo fanbase. He then talked generally about some decisions and some companies and some instances bla bla bla, but I didn't, I was talking about this one specific decision. And this one specific decision was dumb. Nothing more, nothing less.
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You may think they are dumb, open your company and make it billionary and show you are wiser. And if you think saying there are Nintendo fans that do it is a bash at the entire Nintendo fanbase then you are the one generalizing by your ownself.