" They can be as polite and kind as they want"

this goes double for the in my opinion fake feminist men out there that think by pandering the idiotic feminist nonsense that is foisted on them that women will appreciate them

when ironically all it does is repulse women on a deep level subconsciously even though consciously they'll say that's what they want

" alpha males does not equal abuser, it does not mean sexist"

the problem is it can equal abuser and despite their attraction to these traits women also deeply fear them because they can lead to abusive behavior

so that's where the idea of toxic masculinity comes from where these traits are viciously attacked and shamed by women even though they find them attractive

men look at this and get confused because they can clearly see that there is a schism formed when women say they dislike these traits but then end up preferring men with these traits constantly

these men as a result instead of using their common sense and making the judgement that it is what people do, not what they say that shows the driving influence in their behavior take the criticism at face value(despite observing contradictory behavior) and attempt to suppress their masculinity thinking that its the right thing to do to become weak and cowardly... that's where incels are born man

honestly i see no solution to this problem because despite the idiotic feminist nonsense about men and society constantly disregarding the needs of women, the truth is that men in particular have always been to a great extent sensitive to the expressed desires of women

if that was not the case you could not have men going along with this nonsense even though it is clearly nonsense and those men are trapped, because they want to do what women tell them is the right thing to do but it'll only end in them being cast aside and growing resentful as a result

but you better watch yourself, it'll soon become hate speech to make comments like this(if it is not already), since the prevailing narrative that is becoming more and more entrenched in society is the idea that men and women are the exact same psychologically and only diverge due to social pressure

The issue with "just be yourself" is that for some people, unattractive traits are intrinsic parts of who they are, so "being themselves" is repulsive. For example, some people are naturally anxious, so being calmly confident is antithetical to their personality.

Cleaning them out is them not being able to find a mate. These "Robert Crumb" men have little to no chance of anyone finding them attractive enough to lay with them. Because of that they won't get married at the same rates of normal men or have children at the same rate. It's a passive cleaning of the gene pool. I do believe a lot of what can solve the incel problem can be found on how young boys interact with each other. These incels are not learning how to handle adversity or conflict just to be comfortable being a little bitch. 

I am just saying a fist fight can teach a boy his place, how to escalate or deescalate future problems and have some confidence in themselves. 

If you truly believe that then by all means continue living in a make believe world. However reality does not care how you feel or what your opinions are. The fact is that beta males, incels or whatever you call these impotent waste of genes are not desirable to the vast majority of women. They are not desirable to the parents of women. They aren't even desirable to women who claim to only want those type of men. Nature has a wonderful system of making sure those genes get filtered out as best as possible from going into another generation, it's called the law of attraction. 

Shy men are terrorist? From what we see the vast majority of men who commit acts of terrorist style violence are social outcast or have problems with women. It's a commonality that cannot be overlooked. That is what is so wrong with this aggressive feminist movement to eradicate masculinity from society, they are going to artificially create more incels by telling men that how you feel, how you behave, how you think is all wrong and you should conform to some bull hair cut feminist gender studies major of how society should be. Screw that. 

Also further proof even women don't want that is that is how not even the majority of women consider themselves feminist, actually almost as much as call themselves that find the phrase insulting-which they are completely right in that opinion. They want Men, not men. They want someone to feel confident about, someone to take pride in; not some pajama poster boy sipping hot chocolate talking about health insurance who wouldn't even change his oil on his car.

Why would I prefer a "hyper masculine son or son in law over a mild mannered" one? One because you think they're only two levels to men tells me you lean closer to one side of this than the other. It's because I would feel confident in his decision making ability and actions. I would have peace of mind knowing my girls have a strong partner who isn't going to flake when things get difficult and is strong enough to stand up for them and keep that family safe. Why would I want a bitch as a son or a son in law? Why would I want one who couldn't defend himself, couldn't stay in an argument while keeping his cool,couldn't make a decision to save his life so he spends all his energy complaining about opportunities past? Christ on a cheesecake I could go on and on to why I wouldn't want my daughters to settle for a beta. Same goes for not wanting my son to be a beta. It's disgusting even thinking about it. 

The age of the internet allowed betas to believe they have strength and courage. From twitter to facebook these keyboard warriors don't have to look someone in the eye (they can't do it anyway in person) and discuss different opinions so they can spew their anger and envy for everything everyone else has that they'll never acquire. However for a few of them that's not enough. Like the beta males who fill groups like Antifa to Stormfront they resort to violence because they're incapable of acting like a normal human being so they have to resort to violence. 

Incels existed LONG before the term existed.