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Forums - Sales Discussion - May 2017 NPD Thread! PS4 #1

xl-klaudkil on 29 June 2017
UltimateGamer1982 said:
xl-klaudkil said:

Huh i dont  get it, ps4 did beat  switch  om may NPD.. And even  ww.

Relax. Read what he said again. He expected PS4 to win May.

 

He then predicts it'll win June and then from September onward. Switch should win July due to splatoon 2. Probably August as well. 

Ow then i misread  it..



 

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JRPGfan on 29 June 2017
Miyamotoo said:
Do we have some numbers for May NPD?

nope.... all we have is a guy that ranked people's guess's.

Where almost everyone on neogaf thought Switch would be above PS4, even though we know that didnt happend.



Miyamotoo on 29 June 2017
JRPGfan said:
Miyamotoo said:
Do we have some numbers for May NPD?

nope.... all we have is a guy that ranked people's guess's.

Where almost everyone on neogaf thought Switch would be above PS4, even though we know that didnt happend.

Too bad.

Yes, hardly anybody said that PS4 will be above Switch, but Switch has less supplies that anybody thought.



VideoGameAccountant on 30 June 2017
Barkley said:
TheBlackNaruto said:

Okay you still aren't  making sense....you keep saying PS4 sales are likely down when we have official numbers that say they are up year on year. 7 million in the same time frame that they did 5 million last year. So why do you keep saying you are guessing it is down when you have the actual data that says it is up?

WIth a name like that you'd think he'd be up to speed on the numbers.

7 Million sold between January 1st and June 11th, sales definitely aren't down, and considering the second half of the year sales are always bigger there's a good chance this will be PS4's best selling year yet.

You guys do realize the calculation would only compare the month of MAY right

Because, you know, this is a thread for the MAY NPD numbers. 



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Barkley on 30 June 2017
VideoGameAccountant said:
Barkley said:

WIth a name like that you'd think he'd be up to speed on the numbers.

7 Million sold between January 1st and June 11th, sales definitely aren't down, and considering the second half of the year sales are always bigger there's a good chance this will be PS4's best selling year yet.

You guys do realize the calculation would only compare the month of MAY right

Because, you know, this is a thread for the MAY NPD numbers. 

This line isn't about may, and if I'd directly quoted you this is the line I would have quoted:

VideoGameAccountant said:

I do think Sony is going to see a decline this year. The company is projecting fewer shipments, but I think it will be a bit worse than they think.




TheBlackNaruto on 30 June 2017
VideoGameAccountant said:
Barkley said:

WIth a name like that you'd think he'd be up to speed on the numbers.

7 Million sold between January 1st and June 11th, sales definitely aren't down, and considering the second half of the year sales are always bigger there's a good chance this will be PS4's best selling year yet.

You guys do realize the calculation would only compare the month of MAY right

Because, you know, this is a thread for the MAY NPD numbers. 

I know it would be for the month of May but I still couldn't see it being down in it's 2nd largest market and still be up over 2 million year on year WW. That just doesn't seem to add up to me. I can see them being flat but not down really.....unless Mar and April were just HUGE in the US.



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VideoGameAccountant on 30 June 2017
Barkley said:
VideoGameAccountant said:

You guys do realize the calculation would only compare the month of MAY right

Because, you know, this is a thread for the MAY NPD numbers. 

This line isn't about may, and if I'd directly quoted you this is the line I would have quoted:

VideoGameAccountant said:

I do think Sony is going to see a decline this year. The company is projecting fewer shipments, but I think it will be a bit worse than they think.


From Sony's most recent financial report: https://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/library/fr/16q4_sonyspeech.pdf

"Three and half years have passed since the launch of PS4, and we expect annual unit sales in FY17 to decrease year-on year to 18 million units, but some major software titles are scheduled to be launched and we believe we are in the harvest phase of the platform."

Sony themselves have said that they expect a decline for unit sales. Now, in fairness, this is FY (which end March 31, 2018, for them), so there may be a difference there. Nevertheless, this also isn't surprising when you consider sales of a console tend to decline after its third year.  A decline is expected for Sony as it is for most systems.
The reason I'm expecting a larger decline is that Sony has competition now. A big reason the PS4 was successful is that Microsoft was very DRM/Kinect focused, which it's core audience rejected, and Nintendo made the Wii U, a device that had no real purpose and had the most jarring library. Now we have Switch which is a handheld console. The added functionality of handheld, I believe, will appeal more to the younger consumers who have been raised on mobile devices. Basically, do you think consumers would rather have a system they can take anywhere or a console that has great graphics? (there is also PC, but I don't think that will have as immediate effect). 
To clarify a bit, the customers I'm looking at are the ones that don't have a console. There are Pro sales. These will sell to previous PS4 owners, but I don't think those will have a major impact (Pro to standard is 1:4 or 1:5 IIRC). If you are someone who hasn't gotten a console yet, which one would you want more. My expectation is people will pick the one that can be played anywhere over the one with better graphics.
Why people are so bent out of shape on these comments is beyond me.
EDIT: This forum for some reason wants to merge all these paragraphs together. If it's difficult to read, I'm sorry


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Lawlight on 30 June 2017
VideoGameAccountant said:
Barkley said:

This line isn't about may, and if I'd directly quoted you this is the line I would have quoted:

From Sony's most recent financial report: https://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/library/fr/16q4_sonyspeech.pdf

"Three and half years have passed since the launch of PS4, and we expect annual unit sales in FY17 to decrease year-on year to 18 million units, but some major software titles are scheduled to be launched and we believe we are in the harvest phase of the platform."

Sony themselves have said that they expect a decline for unit sales. Now, in fairness, this is FY (which end March 31, 2018, for them), so there may be a difference there. Nevertheless, this also isn't surprising when you consider sales of a console tend to decline after its third year.  A decline is expected for Sony as it is for most systems.
The reason I'm expecting a larger decline is that Sony has competition now. A big reason the PS4 was successful is that Microsoft was very DRM/Kinect focused, which it's core audience rejected, and Nintendo made the Wii U, a device that had no real purpose and had the most jarring library. Now we have Switch which is a handheld console. The added functionality of handheld, I believe, will appeal more to the younger consumers who have been raised on mobile devices. Basically, do you think consumers would rather have a system they can take anywhere or a console that has great graphics? (there is also PC, but I don't think that will have as immediate effect). 
To clarify a bit, the customers I'm looking at are the ones that don't have a console. There are Pro sales. These will sell to previous PS4 owners, but I don't think those will have a major impact (Pro to standard is 1:4 or 1:5 IIRC). If you are someone who hasn't gotten a console yet, which one would you want more. My expectation is people will pick the one that can be played anywhere over the one with better graphics.
Why people are so bent out of shape on these comments is beyond me.
EDIT: This forum for some reason wants to merge all these paragraphs together. If it's difficult to read, I'm sorry

I'm pretty sure consumers would rather have the system with the best library than a handheld. People simply don't carry their gaming systems like they used to. People just use their phone to waste time on the go.