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November 2015 NPD Thread! Hardware and software in OP!

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Zhuge said Halo 5 did 1.3m with digital first month in US ON Twitter few minutes ago.



Slarvax said:
Shadow1980 said:
I predict that VGC overtracked the XBO by at least 200k. There's just no way it did as well as it did last November.

It had a new Halo, Fallout, and StarWars this year. I could see it doing better.

One relative failure and two multiplats. Even with the $300 price point, it's exceedingly unlikely that X1 can match 2014's Nov/Dec sales.

Why? Because we have had pretty good indications from the Amazon/Best Buy/Gamestop sales charts. Even Amazon's results for October make sense when you factor in preorders, which put it over the hump by the necessary +30k margin.

Also, X1 had a decided price/value advantage last year that wasn't there this year vs the competition.



Arkaign said:
Slarvax said:

It had a new Halo, Fallout, and StarWars this year. I could see it doing better.

One relative failure and two multiplats. Even with the $300 price point, it's exceedingly unlikely that X1 can match 2014's Nov/Dec sales.

Why? Because we have had pretty good indications from the Amazon/Best Buy/Gamestop sales charts. Even Amazon's results for October make sense when you factor in preorders, which put it over the hump by the necessary +30k margin.

Also, X1 had a decided price/value advantage last year that wasn't there this year vs the competition.

The thing about those 3 games is that they're the dude bro trifecta of shooters (for this year), not counting CoD because it comes every year. 

The not-so competitive price can be the deciding factor, but shooters + Xbox should have given it a very good boost, putting it close to last year.



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ethomaz said:
Zhuge said Halo 5 did 1.3m with digital first month in US ON Twitter few minutes ago.

so 30% digital launch digital sales. incredible



medussa said:
ethomaz said:
Zhuge said Halo 5 did 1.3m with digital first month in US ON Twitter few minutes ago.

so 30% digital launch digital sales. incredible

Bear in mind that all retail LE Halo 5 sales and Halo 5 bundles are counted as 'Digital', so apples/apples comparisons to your typical "20%" titles are impossible.

That said, if we get some good leaks on H5 bundle sales and LE edition sales from the NPD guys, we might be able to approximate things.

By my own estimates I think the actual DD number of people not getting the game from a store in an LE package or Halo 5 X1 bundle would be more like 25% or less.



zorg1000 said:
I really hope 3DS did better than that, those numbers aren't looking good

While I do hope the numbers are higher, I would brace for them not being much different.  Last year the 3DS had the system sellers of Smash 3DS and Pokémon Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire while this fall it didn't get much outside of Tri Force Heroes and Super Mystery Dungeon. 



Slarvax said:
Arkaign said:
Slarvax said:

It had a new Halo, Fallout, and StarWars this year. I could see it doing better.

One relative failure and two multiplats. Even with the $300 price point, it's exceedingly unlikely that X1 can match 2014's Nov/Dec sales.

Why? Because we have had pretty good indications from the Amazon/Best Buy/Gamestop sales charts. Even Amazon's results for October make sense when you factor in preorders, which put it over the hump by the necessary +30k margin.

Also, X1 had a decided price/value advantage last year that wasn't there this year vs the competition.

The thing about those 3 games is that they're the dude bro trifecta of shooters (for this year), not counting CoD because it comes every year. 

The not-so competitive price can be the deciding factor, but shooters + Xbox should have given it a very good boost, putting it close to last year.

Well, last year saw $329 vs. $399 (additionally a new AAA release in the X1 bundle AND stock shortages of PS4), and the results for November were

1282k X1

895k PS4

Factors are vastly different this year. Halo 5 was a relative disaster compared to previous installments (the lack of a $349 bundle was a catastrophic error imho). PS4 pricing was deadly competitive and no stock issues for Sony. PS4 had preorders coming due in November for hot selling CoD and Star Wars bundles. And so on.

Even so, I don't think X1 is going to have horrendous sales by any stretch, but I do believe Shadow1980 is absolutely on point with VGC overtracking X1.

I expect 1.25M for PS4, 1.05M for X1 roughly for Nov '15. We have one day to find out :)



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I predict PS4 will be higher
XBO around the same.
Halo 5 higher
Wii U higher.
Splatoon a little lower
Mario Maker a little higher.
3DS around the same
Vita way higher.



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