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Destroying? Now that's some wishful thinking, also The Wither 3 was made by Western developers.



Sprash said:
Metroid33slayer said:

Despite selling over 150 million consoles why did amazing games like shadow of the collossus, ico, dark chronicle, okami, killer 7, yakuza, sly racoon, haunting ground, viewtiful joe, rogue galaxy, silent hill and onimusha sell so poorly? Because most people were interested in the casual crap like all the movie tie-ins, the eyetoy, the next need for speed and fifa. Even metal gear solid 3 snakeater (the best mgs IMO) only managed 4 million. Thats right 4 million for a masterpiece like that which has to be one of the biggest injustices in gaming.

What bullshit is that?

Xbox 360:

Despite selling over 80 million consoles why did amazing games like "insert some random game that didn't sell"  sell so poorly? Because most people were interested in the casual crap like all the movie tie-ins, halo, the next need for speed and fifa. Even Shenmune 2  (the best shenmune IMO) only managed 0.5 million. Thats right 0.5 million for a masterpiece like that which has to be one of the biggest injustices in gaming.

WiiU:

Despite selling over 10 million consoles why did amazing games like "insert some random game that didn't sell"  sell so poorly? Because most people were interested in the casual crap like all the mario tie-ins, pokemon, the next zelda and luigi. Even Bayonetta 2  (the best Bayonetta IMO) only managed 0.8 million. Thats right 0.8 million for a masterpiece like that which has to be one of the biggest injustices in gaming.

I guess all console ever released were all casual consoles because some random games that didn't sell well exist on every platform that deserved more sales?

That's exactly the point that i am making. The ps2 was no more hardcore than the 360 or wii u otherwise it's hardcore games would have done better. Glad you agree with me. And you're comparing a console with an install base of 150 m + to a console of 10m lol. Bayonetta 2 selling 0.85m plus digital would have sold around 1m, an attache rate of 10%, this is pretty good for a hardcore title. An awesome game like shadow of colossus not even breaking a million on a 150 million userbase is an attache rate below 0.67 %. So like i said the ps2 being more of a hardcore console than even the the wii u is bollocks.



Legacy said:
Destroying? Now that's some wishful thinking, also The Wither 3 was made by Western developers.

Read the whole thing. As OP writes 1 out of the 6 best rated 8th gen games is Western developed (The Witcher 3).

 

OT: Japanese games are definitely back in full force.



No they are not, Metacritic scores don't mean shit.



Though I prefer Japanese games more that Western games, I don't really think that is the case...

Western developers do make a lot of hit titles and are still really good..



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Chazore said:
witcher 3 is European....

Also I believe it;s the other way around in terms of overall popularity and the amount of devs/games that have been spread out over the years still has Western games and devs being very popular.


ya they are Polish.



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Ah, Metacritic. I don't even know how to approach arguments based on Metacritic anymore. I mean, when someone tells me that a game is high quality at 90 but a game at 87 is not, because a small sample of online writers liked the first one a bit more ... it just leaves me at a loss for word.



CD Project Red is Polish, not Japanese.



Gotta figure out how to set these up lol.

Outside forums aka real world begs to differ though.

You can judge games solely based on meta critics but western games imo are of better quality than japanese games overall. Sure both sides have their gems and duds but overall I think western gaming is way more mature (in a sense that they have a better understanding of the medium) and try more kinds of games than the japanese.



AsGryffynn said:
Ruler said:

And keep in mind metacritic doesnt even allow japanese reviewers into their score, so they dont even have any kind of support from home like western games have, in fact almost all of metacritic score are western reviewers


It does. The reviews have to be in English, but that doesn't means they aren't allowed to. Also, it's not like the Japanese would rank Japanese games higher just because. That disqualifies them as reviewers... so it's nonsense...

Also, yes... PS2, Wii... they were both casual kings and that's the problem with the Xbox brand. People always see it as hardcore, not casual, and they can't shake that reputation without being both, so they are doubly handicapped...

Except that a lot of reviews have only a shortcut written in english but the main site or the article are in italian, czech and other western languages i have seen a lot of times.

They arent allowed it looks to me, by the size of Japans gaming market it should be like a lot bigger. And if a japanese game gets released in the west there should allready be a review up from famitsu, 4gamer Because its allready out in japan. Anyways my point simple is that metacrtic is a very fishy organisation owned by gamspot