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See all the nintendogz on this site get all antsy when somewhen says something good about the ps3. Musou was a good release and really sold well considering howmany ps3 were sold but its not the individual games that matter on this list its the fact that so many on the list are ps3 games. Like wise if it were all wii games u nintendogz would be like yeah ninty owns and the sales of the wii prove it. The fact of the matter is Sony was careless with the jp launch 5 titles seriously wtf. But I wouldnt give more than the first round of this war to the wii. Basically Nintendo is a new guy in this market they have to restate their franchises and create new one (Wii Sport, Wii PLay). I am sticking to my theory that Hot shots will push the ps3 past 1 mil it will not out sell brawl too much of a base difference but it will move consoles. I mean the only holding the ps3 back is its software ( lack of) i mean u can get a ps3 for 400 bucks there. Once software is moreavailable the competition begins.



ckmlb said:
It doesn't matter, Gundam Musou is not FF XIII

 Really, maybe you have to go into deep detail and explain it to them.  Musou isent not even a good game



Shane said:
So we're comparing an unestablished franchise to one of the biggest selling franchises in history, which hasn't had sales below 2 million in 15 years? Not that Musou did bad (if you want bad, look at anything Koei's released on any non-Sony platform in the last decade).

And were;re talking about a system which hasn't had a single game pass the 300,000 mark in Japan ...



No i'm not saying FF13 is the same as Gundam Musou, but you are basically validating my point that this list has far less meaning than many people are claiming.  Musou was #1, Person 3 was #2 and 3 for a long time and has only sold 100k in 2 weeks (and it's a ps2 game), Ogre Battle 3 for N64 for #1-3 on that list for 3 years, but it only sold 250k.  Like you are saying, sales history is a far, far better way of predicting what Japanese people will buy than some list by one magazine. 



currently playing: Skyward Sword, Mario Sunshine, Xenoblade Chronicles X

HappySqurriel said:
Shane said:
So we're comparing an unestablished franchise to one of the biggest selling franchises in history, which hasn't had sales below 2 million in 15 years? Not that Musou did bad (if you want bad, look at anything Koei's released on any non-Sony platform in the last decade).

And were;re talking about a system which hasn't had a single game pass the 300,000 mark in Japan ...


 What sells systems? Must have games, this is a must have game so it's not surprising that games don't sell too much when an install base is still small.



Thanks to Blacksaber for the sig!

Then by some logic of the nintendogz Brawl could be a flop?



Nobody is saying FF13 is going to flop, they are saying that the low install base, and 600$ price will mean less sales than the previous FF games. All the previous FF games were released on winning consoles with huge install bases in Japan.



currently playing: Skyward Sword, Mario Sunshine, Xenoblade Chronicles X

psmcx said:

Ok i posted this link on the latest jp sales and the nintendogs ( as i like to call them hey i am one 2) got mad when i said some of the most anticipated titles in jp are for the ps3 and the ps brand as a whole.

http://www.psu.com/node/10388

NOte how hot shot 5 is higher than Brawl sequel to the Cubes best seller but who knows if this will translate into sale i think it will.


 PS3 was wanted more than the Wii before launch, but has sold poorly, these lists never result in anything because they only target a small portion of the Japanese market



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

Shane said:
Anyone who tries arguing against the potential success of any of the PS3 games on that list fails. There may be some question as to just how many units those games will sell, as well as how many PS3s they can push out the door, but we know they will be successful.

 Success is a subjective word, they won't get the PS3 to sustain sales beyond the Wii



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

ckmlb said:
HappySqurriel said:
Shane said:
So we're comparing an unestablished franchise to one of the biggest selling franchises in history, which hasn't had sales below 2 million in 15 years? Not that Musou did bad (if you want bad, look at anything Koei's released on any non-Sony platform in the last decade).

And were;re talking about a system which hasn't had a single game pass the 300,000 mark in Japan ...


 What sells systems? Must have games, this is a must have game so it's not surprising that games don't sell too much when an install base is still small.


 360 games seem to sell decently, in fact 360 software sales are on par with the PS3's in Japan, and it has a much smaller base



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)