Ok i posted this link on the latest jp sales and the nintendogs ( as i like to call them hey i am one 2) got mad when i said some of the most anticipated titles in jp are for the ps3 and the ps brand as a whole.

http://www.psu.com/node/10388

NOte how hot shot 5 is higher than Brawl sequel to the Cubes best seller but who knows if this will translate into sale i think it will.

Famitsu is a gaming magazine and their top ten is heavily dominated by games which are targeted towards the "Core-Gamer" market in Japan. Games like Blue Dragon, Dead or Alive, and (IIRC) Halo 2 have all made it on this list for extended periods of time and yet been outsold by games like Nintendogs, Animal Crossing and Brain Training which didn't grace the list.

Hot shot 5 is considered a hardcore gamer game? that seems wierd to me, but everything else you said makes sense.

On another note, Odin Sphere is pretty high up there and I can't wait to play that game. Also what is the earliest release of those PS3 games in Japan, is it Hot shot 5 or anything else and what's the date on that anyone know?

Cause the rest of those look pretty far away still (Fall and beyond).

Anyone who tries arguing against the potential success of any of the PS3 games on that list fails. There may be some question as to just how many units those games will sell, as well as how many PS3s they can push out the door, but we know they will be successful.

Well it depends on how you define "Success" ...

Would Final Fantasy XIII be considered a success if it only sold 500,000 copies in Japan? The truth is success and failure are largely determined by expectations ...

link

"This is all expected to change with the release of Gundam Musou, the highly anticipated collaboration between Koei's Omega Force (known for the Dynasty Warriors series) and Namco Bandai. Consistently on Famitsu's most wanted charts since it was first announced two months ago, Gundam Musou is the game that will drive PS3 sales in Japan (at least until Final Fantasy XIII arrives). Gundam games are extremely popular in Japan, but this one is special; it matches the Dynasty Warriors gameplay (which is also quite popular there) with the Gundam universe. It's guaranteed to sell a lot of units (Namco Bandai states it expects to sell over a million copies of the game), and certainly push hardware sales for Sony. "

"1UP: Gundam Musou has consistently been on the Most Wanted lists in Japan since it was announced. Some people have even gone so far as to say it's the most important game for PS3 this year. How does that make you feel? Did that add a lot of pressure?
YH: There's always a lot of pressure involved in developing a Gundam game. We really felt it this time because of the game's budget and the fact that we were developing it on next-generation hardware. Plus, we were borrowing the Musou brand and using Omega Force staff to develop our concept, which added to the pressure. We're very pleased that this has led to Gundam Musou being called one of the most important PS3 titles, and we hope it'll help to expand the PS3 userbase in Japan."

With all of the build-up do you think that Koei considers the 275,000 units sold of Gundam Musou a Success?

Final Fantasy XIII is gonna sell PS3s in Japan and it's not just selling 500,000 over there...

Gundam Musou was only able to double PS3 hardware sales for 1 week, then went down 50% the next week, then almost back to normal sales in a couple weeks. That game was #1 on the famitsu top 20, only sold 275k and sold about 30k ps3s. You are seriously out of your mind if you think that Hot Shots Golf will outsell Smash Bros. Apparently Lost Odyssey will also outsell Smash Bros, funny.

Well it does have the best most wanted games so yahh no one saw that coming.

So we're comparing an unestablished franchise to one of the biggest selling franchises in history, which hasn't had sales below 2 million in 15 years? Not that Musou did bad (if you want bad, look at anything Koei's released on any non-Sony platform in the last decade).

It doesn't matter, Gundam Musou is not FF XIII