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Forums - Sales Discussion - NPD January: X360 #1 270k, 49% share, PS3 > Wii = 281k Combined

Barozi on 09 February 2012
Seece said:
Still, the January results are so poor that their validity should be questioned, says Wedbush Securities analyst Michael Pachter. From 2004 to 2011, January software sales have averaged $518 million, making this month's $355.9 million figure "just hard to digest," he says. "It also makes no sense that sales are below the level from 2004, when games were cheaper and the installed base of consoles was much lower. ... I don't know if the NPD is getting faulty data, but these numbers make no sense."

Well I thought the same about last December....

Now it's the second time in a row where Wedbush, EEDAR (I guess) and VGC show much different (higher) data than NPD.



Train wreck on 09 February 2012
Seece said:
pezus said:
Seece said:
Still, the January results are so poor that their validity should be questioned, says Wedbush Securities analyst Michael Pachter. From 2004 to 2011, January software sales have averaged $518 million, making this month's $355.9 million figure "just hard to digest," he says. "It also makes no sense that sales are below the level from 2004, when games were cheaper and the installed base of consoles was much lower. ... I don't know if the NPD is getting faulty data, but these numbers make no sense."


Maybe adjustments?

Hmm, perhaps NPD overestimated November and previous months? THat or the industry really is this down.

I keep looking back at december and all the electronic retailers here in the US that warned on sales and earnings and thats the only thing i can think of, November was a absolute top for videogames sales (maybe for a long while) and people are just tapped out.  But if there was discrepancy, i dont see why any of the console makers or publishers are saying anything opposite, they carter they monthly statements to what NPD says.



Jexy on 09 February 2012
Seece said:
pezus said:
Seece said:
Still, the January results are so poor that their validity should be questioned, says Wedbush Securities analyst Michael Pachter. From 2004 to 2011, January software sales have averaged $518 million, making this month's $355.9 million figure "just hard to digest," he says. "It also makes no sense that sales are below the level from 2004, when games were cheaper and the installed base of consoles was much lower. ... I don't know if the NPD is getting faulty data, but these numbers make no sense."


Maybe adjustments?

Hmm, perhaps NPD overestimated November and previous months? THat or the industry really is this down.

Microsoft should really do a price cut.  They'd still make a good profit, and since Sony can't really afford to do one right now and make a profit, they could get a real stranglehold on the market by doing so.  That 49% market share could rise to 60% with a price cut and the Wii dying.



BOOM!  FACE KICK!

Jexy on 09 February 2012
Train wreck said:

I keep looking back at december and all the electronic retailers here in the US that warned on sales and earnings and thats the only thing i can think of, November was a absolute top for videogames sales (maybe for a long while) and people are just tapped out.  But if there was discrepancy, i dont see why any of the console makers or publishers are saying anything opposite, they carter they monthly statements to what NPD says.

Yeah, I think Microsoft/Sony/Nintendo would refute those numbers if they were wrong.  But instead they go right along with it.  Odd.



BOOM!  FACE KICK!

Nsanity on 09 February 2012

Saw this post on Gaf.

Looks like Michael Pachter is questioning the integrity of the NPD data:

http://content.usatoday.com/communit...-in-january-/1

"I don't know if the NPD is getting faulty data, but these numbers make no sense."



sully1311 on 09 February 2012
Nsanity said:

Saw this post on Gaf.

Looks like Michael Pachter is questioning the integrity of the NPD data:

http://content.usatoday.com/communit...-in-january-/1

"I don't know if the NPD is getting faulty data, but these numbers make no sense."

your about a page late



Seece on 09 February 2012

No Nintendo data ....



 

Acevil on 09 February 2012
Seece said:
No Nintendo data ....


I just want 3DS data, out of curiousity.  Wii, Ps3, DS, and PSP data is going to be bad either way. 



 

Hyruken on 09 February 2012

Man those numbers are just terrible. If they continue into the next couple of months then I think we will see that 360 price cut for sure.

Either way it is a good lesson for guys like Pesuz, as it should remind them why you can't try and use vgc numbers in an "official" way.

Based on these numbers you would think Vita would have a good chance to get at least 2nd spot next month.



dark_gh0st_b0y on 09 February 2012
RolStoppable said:
Acevil said:
Seece said:
No Nintendo data ....

I just want 3DS data, out of curiousity.  Wii, Ps3, DS, and PSP data is going to be bad either way. 

Video games are officially dead, here comes the iPad.

Our last hopes rest on Microsoft's shoulders. May Kinect and the next Sesame Street game lead us towards a bright future.

if Nintendo was smart, they would include facebook, youtube, twitter, e-mail and all that apps, even an app-store because 3DS is capable, attack tablets with their own as they did attacked gaming handhelds

i think this is going to happen sooner or later, maybe PSV has got more tablet bonus features, like youtube on internet browser which is huge lack of the 3DS browser



don't mind my username, that was more than 10 years ago, I'm a different person now, amazing how people change ^_^