ioi:
Although I see the logic behind not updating the numbers for Xbox360 and DS, I can't comprehend why for example you will not update Wii numbers? The estimation here at Vgchartz is 512k for canada + us (+ central and south america maybe?) while the estimation at NPD for the US is 519k, unless you really beleive that regarding the Wii your estimates are better?
Any thoughts?

@ioi

Who is we? There are more guys like you?

Wow, just saw these numbers, hope it all flattens out.

of course iam a bit confused that ioi don't want to correct his numbers, because he did in past.
on the other side i think that ioi is doing a great job and iam trusting him.

ioi - you have my vote !

When I think about it, I thought this site was just a fun casual site for gamers to see how consoles are going etc etc, nothing serious.

So I can't really see how adjusting the numbers would hurt seeing as the aim of this site wasn't to be fully credible (see 3 lines above).

I think this is a personal thing between VGC & NPD and is not in the best interest in the users.

Not to say this site is not accurate, I think you nailed Nintendo excellently, obviously there has been a slip with 360 and there is no harm in editing, this is not a fix it to what NPD say, this is a fix it to what was actually sold, seeing as obviously, NPD are more accurate, no matter what way you swing it.

I find it extremely funny with what some of you are saying;

“NPD might not even be accurate, look VGC got all the other stuff right”

Got it right? Got the other hardware right? How do you know? Are you comparing it to air to know VGC’s was right? Perhaps you’re comparing it to NPD’s numbers?
Are you saying VGC got it right because their other hardware matched NPD’s hardware, but because the 360 is hideously off NPD's, NPD must be wrong, because it doesn’t match VGC’s... do you see a loop?

Talk about tying yourself into a knot of self contradictory.

Don't get me wrong but I love this site, but half of you have got to cut the crap and stop sucking up with the whole "Look at me I'll take a bullet for you because I want to be noticed" attitude.

Ah! excellent, so i got it right. (see comment about pies near the top of the page)

@origin, ioi isn't saying he is keeping VGC numbers because of a principal or because he wants to be seperate from NPD, he is doing it because for the past few months his data has shown to be better for the 360 and DS than when we adjusted to be like NPD.... the fiscal quartely statements (Nintendos was combined to a half year statement) showed that there was a stupidly massive discrepancy between the number of DS shipped and what NPD had for sales, there would have to be dozens of DS sitting on every store shelf to acount for it, the 360 discrepancy was even bigger, though 360s have a much better retail supply than DS it was clearly not as much as the difference between shipments and NPD sales.

Maybe that is why NPD were stopping releasing public data this month, because MS and Nintendos own sales numbers (which they seemingly don't release) showed NPD to be off.

*takes the popcorn*
*looks arround*

Na, i say something:

What the hell are you complaining about? I also think ioi overtracks the 360, but WTF? Those aren't "your" numbers. This isn't "your" site. Thats all ioi. You think you could do better? Make a own site. Common, if ioi doesn't want to, he doesn't want to. He even explained it with reasonable reasons (doesn't mean you have to agree, but you can see he made the decision based on thoughts rather then randomnes). If he is far off he will change the database, if he sees number he trusts (e.g. copies shipped). It is that simple.

So that is settled, finally.