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haxxiy said:

Bernie has its own set of hurdles to overcome as the nominee. For once, kiss Florida goodbye and pray for the Rust Belt to deliver. Secondly, to pitch a good economy against a true democratic socialist who admits he'll increase middle-class taxes sounds exactly like what Trump would want if he's not running against a moderate. He isn't decrying injustice against Bernie because he wants him to fail after all.

Why Florida? Polls have shown Bernie doing fine there for months. Here's one from June:
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/18/2020-florida-poll-trump-biden-sanders-1368167

And there was one the other day that showed that even though Biden will probably win the Florida primary, Bernie does better than Biden in a head to head against Trump.

https://floridapolitics.com/archives/316062-joe-biden-expands-lead-in-florida-primary-fau-poll-shows

As for this "good economy" nonsense, the economy is NOT good. Just because we aren't in a recession...yet...doesn't mean it's good. Wage growth is crap and has been for a long time, living expenses are growing out of control and while a lot of new jobs are being created, they're shitty jobs that people need to work two or three of to get by. Benefits for those jobs are getting worse, people are being laid off even when companies are successful, and really, the only thing up is the stock market, which is meaningless to most Americans, because most stock is owned by rich people and trickle down doesn't work so those rich people increasing their net worth just because some companies stocks went up doesn't affect the larger economy. Inequality is getting worse every year, and while the rent-seeking class demands more and more of the rest of us, we have less and less to satisfy them with because they're already taking a bigger and bigger portion of created wealth. Economic mobility is worse than it's been in a long time. If you're born poor, you'll probably stay poor, and the rich's wealth is more protected than ever so you have to be Trump levels of incompetent to not stay rich (and even then, if you're Trump, you'll still be fine). The middle class is disintegrating as the cost of a middle class lifestyle rises faster than incomes grow. None of this is hard to understand, in fact as good as Bernie is at explaining it, he doesn't need to because it's patently obvious.

And Trump doesn't want Bernie to win the primary, in fact he expects him not to. He's decrying injustice against Bernie for the same reasons as he did in 2016, he expects Bernie to lose and wants Bernie's passionate fans to sit out the general election. It wasn't effective last time beyond a tiny vocal minority, and that minority will be even tinier this time, but I don't blame him for trying, every little bit helps, he only barely won last time. As for middle class taxes, Bernie already has a clear explanation for that: Your healthcare premium goes to zero, all other healthcare costs go to zero, the taxes that go up are less than the costs that go down, so you actually save thousands of dollars.

Last edited by HylianSwordsman - on 20 January 2020