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[Cerebralbore101]

HylianSwordsman said:

Cerebralbore101 said:

I'm not a fan of Biden in the least. I hope he loses the nomination, because if he wins it we are losing the general election. That being said, the Bernie camp is spreading an outright lie about him wanting to shut down Social Security. I won't stand for that. Here's what Biden said in it's full context...

Biden is making fun of Paul Ryan's Social Security cuts, not promoting them.

Apparently no one bothered to click Uran's links. Biden may not have advocated "shutting down" Social Security in the clip above, just as he never advocated "shutting it down" but that doesn't mean he didn't advocate cutting it in some way. Here he is advocating freezing it, and sure, he advocates freezing all spending, but why freeze something that millions of seniors depend on to live?

JOE BIDEN: “When I argued that we should freeze federal spending, I meant Social Security as well. I meant Medicare & Medicaid. I meant veterans’ benefits....And I not only tried it once, I tried it twice, I tried it a 3rd time & I tried it a 4th time.”https://t.co/TpoSdmjGhA pic.twitter.com/MIAx4nO9Qa

— David Sirota (@davidsirota) January 2, 2020

Look how proud he is of that! Know what else he's proud of? Working to get a constitutional amendment to require a balanced budget, something that Paul Ryan wanted for years because it would FORCE the cutting of Social Security. Here's that:

NEWS: Another clip surfaces of @JoeBiden proudly bragging about working with Republicans on a plan to cut Social Security.

C-Span link: https://t.co/ixQattKIXy

Congressional Record: https://t.co/KNCgNucuhz pic.twitter.com/n80mTl9FEZ

— David Sirota (@davidsirota) January 9, 2020

And lest you say that was a long time ago, here he is running for President in 07, again supporting Social Security cuts.

NEWS: Another clip emerges of @JoeBiden saying we must consider cuts to Social Security & Medicare. When asked if changes to eligibility age & COLAs should be considered, he said in 2007: "Absolutely...You’ve got to put all of it on the table"

Transcript: https://t.co/LPnSi80KcS pic.twitter.com/I2FnYNjwL6

— David Sirota (@davidsirota) January 10, 2020

If you want to call Bernie a liar, I can't stop you, but I suggest you believe Biden when he says he wants to cut Social Security, because these clips aren't hard to find and will make for some potent ads against Biden in the general election.

Thanks. I was just going off of what was said here.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2020/jan/09/bernie-sanders/did-biden-laud-paul-ryan-proposal-cut-social-secur/

It looks like PF is correct, but only in the instance of this one video. The bigger picture, as you've shown, is that Biden is one of those Democrats dumb enough to try to cut Social Security.

All I can say, is F that! I have student loans, and will likely need Social Security to retire on. I'll be using these clips at the caucus to get senior voters to walk over to the Bernie side.