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KLAMarine on 23 August 2019
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SpokenTruth said:
KLAMarine said:

>When did I suggest we should all have guns? Could you copy-paste the exact point where I suggested such a thing?

Uh, well, you asked.

"The weak can't naturally beat the strong, so they create something to help that will. What do you do when you're the strong person who's now the weak one because you're up against a gun? You get yourself a gun or make something even stronger.

The only real way to completely fix this is to make everyone and everything 100% equal, which you can't do. Until then, weapons of any kind will be used and will be seen as a solution and a problem."

Your whole logic train runs like this.

Strong dominates weak > weak obtains gun to dominate strong > strong is now the weak > new weak/former strong obtains gun to dominate against new strong/former weak = we all have guns.

We are the only developed nation on Earth with this irrational band-aid mentality.

And if you really want to go back to the actual point of it all....if people are the actual problem, why the hell aren't we trying to fix the people?  If people are the problem, why the hell do we want to give the problem lethal weapons?

Uh, well, you asked.

"The weak can't naturally beat the strong, so they create something to help that will. What do you do when you're the strong person who's now the weak one because you're up against a gun? You get yourself a gun or make something even stronger.

The only real way to completely fix this is to make everyone and everything 100% equal, which you can't do. Until then, weapons of any kind will be used and will be seen as a solution and a problem."

>This was not my quote. This looks to be EricHiggin's below...

I think you may be talking to too many people at the moment...

EricHiggin said:
SpokenTruth said:

I'm starting to think you missed the point.  I'll start over.

The NRA loves to state the following rhetoric to the point it has become a mantra for many, "Guns don't kill people, people do."

The converse then must also be true, "Guns don't protect people, people do."

The end sum of each of these statements suggests the cause of death and protection against death is people and the gun is therefore irrelevant in either case.  

The point is that if you proclaim that people are the problem (not gun), then you must also claim people are the solution (not gun). It's basically a nullification of the NRA rhetoric.

The problem is that the strong don't need weapons, but the weak do. It's why weapons were invented in the first place. The weak can't naturally beat the strong, so they create something to help that will. What do you do when you're the strong person who's now the weak one because you're up against a gun? You get yourself a gun or make something even stronger. 

The only real way to completely fix this is to make everyone and everything 100% equal, which you can't do. Until then, weapons of any kind will be used and will be seen as a solution and a problem.