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the-pi-guy said:

Snoopy said:

Most policies that affect you is your local policies.

But when the entire country, rural and urban are seeing similar trends, it's almost impossible to be due to local policies.  

Snoopy said:

1. Already proven it to you by showing credible sources of Liberal ran cities have the highest gun violence and people in poverty. If you know your policies aren't working, why keep pushing it? Because it will make them rely on government handouts which mean they will vote democrats to make sure the gravy train doesn't end.

2. When a city gets worse, people have to move due to lack of jobs and money. So they go to another city with a lot of jobs to repeat the same mistakes as before. Heavy business regulations and more taxes on hard-working citizens.

1.  False, you gave a couple of cherry picked examples, while ignoring other Liberal ran cities that do much better.  

1B.  the policies themselves work fine.  Most of the guns that are used in crimes in Chicago for example, are brought in from other areas without those policies.  

1C.  How people go into poverty is complicated.  People love pointing at California as an example of how liberal policies cause homelessness, but the reality is that the reason housing is so expensive there is because the state isn't building enough houses.  The reason why they aren't building enough houses, is because people don't want the houses there so they vote for people to prevent housing.  

So in California's case, the reason for poverty isn't because economically they are failing, it is essentially the opposite.  It's doing so well that people are moving in, but people don't want more people to move in.

2.  You're claiming that the reasons why jobs get lost is exclusively due to local liberal policies (regulations, taxes), that's pretty nonsensical.

And I'm sure you're unconvinced about Detroit, despite the fact that during the 1950's and up till 1962, when the Auto industry in Detroit was falling on its face, that those are somehow Democratic policy mistakes, despite a Republican being in charge.  

1. The '90s was one of the worse eras in violent crimes. When Republicans took over in the early 2000's we have seen huge improvements. However, it mainly changed for the better when local government change mayors and Democrats started to see the error of their ways.

2. Like I said many times before, market changes. For example, HSN was huge, but now is becoming less relevant in Amazon's world. A lot of people lost their jobs due to HSN layoffs and moved elsewhere for a career. However, doesn't mean the city HSN operates in will or should fail. 

Poverty seems to be a Democrat ran problem for the most part nowadays.

Also, houses are expensive because we let people take out ridiculous loans that they will not be able to pay. And of course, the federal government will bail the banks out again.

Last edited by Snoopy - on 22 August 2019